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Ape (with car keys) Jun 23, 2013 @ 2:31am
Do people not use the knife?
I got the 'slice-n-dice' and 'sterling-effort' achievements by knifing lurkers.I'm looking at the low percentage of people that have those, especially the second one, and don't get why they're so low. Do other folks expend ammo against those hordes instead?
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michael-np Jun 23, 2013 @ 4:30am 
I run away from them. Don't want to bother myself with those things. And I never use the knife, only throwing knifes, since the knife does not seem to kill silently
Drei Gläser Jun 23, 2013 @ 8:58am 
You can use it against the mutants in Ranger mode to save ammo, that's how I got my achievement.
Ape (with car keys) Jun 23, 2013 @ 6:19pm 
No wonder i've been so challenged with this game. I can't seem to find gas masks for sale at stations, and I hardly find any while scavenging about. Been making it real tough to get thru the "War Outpost" segment. Just now noticed that I have the game settings on ranger-easy for my first play thru. I thought I had put it at one level down from that, the most difficult non-ranger setting, but i guess not.
mattig89ch Jun 23, 2013 @ 8:13pm 
well....my volt driver tends to do the trick against hoards. Those fecking lurkers though....god I hate them.
VimesCarrot Jun 23, 2013 @ 8:13pm 
Explains why you're using the knife. It's a lot more effective on Ranger. Outside of Ranger it's basically useless.
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Ape (with car keys) Jun 23, 2013 @ 11:45pm 
Oh my, just started on "Hope" right after the stay at Polis... zero filters... so i'm dead about 45 seconds after starting. Not sure how i'm gonna survive this one?
VimesCarrot Jun 24, 2013 @ 6:05am 
The level after Polis is Alley (Hope being just the name of the chapter). I think there's a corpse to your left somewhere with a filter or two on it. Be quick.
mattig89ch Jun 24, 2013 @ 10:55am 
I was just going to start my first run thorugh on ranger easy. good to know that knife can come in handy
BBX Jun 24, 2013 @ 12:48pm 
I just did an entire game using only the knife (on easy tho) and I did not get Sterling Effort. What counts as "mutant"?
VimesCarrot Jun 24, 2013 @ 3:03pm 
Can't speak for the achievement, but in the fiction, mutants are pretty much anything that's not a human. Nosalises (the dark-skinned surface mutants), demons (the surface fliers), lurkers (the pale borrowing underground ones), librarians (the apelike ones in the library...though you probably knew that). I don't think amoebas would be considered mutants, though they totally are.

Maybe it doesn't work on Easy.
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Ape (with car keys) Jun 24, 2013 @ 9:31pm 
I killed hordes of lurkers with the combat knife (not the throwing knives), I think that's what got me the acheivement.

I'm going into Alley with no fillters... wish me luck :)
Last edited by Ape (with car keys); Jun 24, 2013 @ 9:32pm
mattig89ch Jun 24, 2013 @ 9:58pm 
ouch, good luck mate
Ape (with car keys) Jun 24, 2013 @ 10:22pm 
I made it thru Alley alright, there was a filter not too far off, but running out of filters is a recurring theme for me in my Ranger-Easy playthru. Once you know where to go and what might get in your way while going there, and what might be there to help you, it's less a problem. But its real tough on that very first visit to a puzzling new environment.
mattig89ch Jun 24, 2013 @ 10:45pm 
wow...your playing your first runthorugh on ranger easy? thats...impressive. I'm going through my second playthrough on ranger easy right now.

Theres a part (in the relatively distant future of the campain, for me) where you fight a hoard of those fecking lurkers. can't wait for that part, I want to skin them.
Ape (with car keys) Jun 24, 2013 @ 11:29pm 
I'll do one of the non-ranger modes on my 2nd time thru to see how it's different. I am liking the scarcity of everything, but the lack of air is a real killer :)

Back to it for some more fun with Librarians!
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Date Posted: Jun 23, 2013 @ 2:31am
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