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tatumthunderlips Apr 3, 2013 @ 1:17pm
Metro 2033 video issues
Not sure why I cant run this game at 60 fps anyone know why?

System Spec:
Processor: AMD FX-8150 Zambezi 3.6GHz Eight-Core Processor with Liquid Cooling Kit
Mobo: Asus M5A99X Evo R2.0
RAM: Corsair Vengance 2x 8GB 1600
GPU: EVGA GTX 660GTX 2GB DDR5 SC
Last edited by tatumthunderlips; Apr 3, 2013 @ 2:47pm
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John Apr 3, 2013 @ 1:48pm 
You don't have the power to pull 60fps steady in this game. Make sure DOF and Physx is disabled, and deal with it from there.
tatumthunderlips Apr 3, 2013 @ 2:16pm 
done that, best i can get a variable 25 - 35 fps. Kinda hard to believe that 3 years later, when i have no difficulty running Crysis 3 at 45 fps and Bioshock Infinite at 60 - 90 fps, that i cant get better fps out of metro. How exactly might i get enough oomph to get better than a meager 30 fps.
Mc Intire Apr 3, 2013 @ 2:17pm 
Because your rig is bottlenecked right where you plugged the graphiccard. My suggestion: Next time you build a computer get a few second opinions first. I am not aware of any current games that can use an octacore and 16GB of ram was a bit over the top, too (you know, ram can always be upgraded afterwards if you really need it). Had you saved some money there you would have had money left for a better graphics card.

Of course, this is just my humble opinion and you can disagree if you want.

Edit: Metro is not as well optimized as Bioshock or Crysis are (bioshock is not as hardware hungry to begin with), the team behind it was a lot smaller than the teams/companies behind the games you mentioned, which limited their capabilities to do so.
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tatumthunderlips Apr 3, 2013 @ 2:33pm 
no not at all, I had 16GB ram long before i had the gpu, I do a lot of photo editing as well and Adobe loves the memory, is my graphics card really the bottleneck and if so why? as far as I can tell from benchmarking my parts they should run metro fine.

As far as games requiring an 8 core and 16gb of ram, these were budget purchases which combined cost less than $225 (ram being 50 bucks which is ridiculously expensive so you're right I shouldn't have bought it.) so I'm not sure where I made a mistake in my build... considering combined they are less than an i5 with comparable specs... Understandably Intel runs games better than AMD in general but still I'm not sure what the point of your criticism is, especially since it seems your implying that the GPU is the bottleneck in my system. What would be more useful is you giving a sentence long explanation of my bottleneck...

Additionally for anyone else reading this, I did notice a rough 10fps drop after Nvidia updated drivers to 314.22 that is I went from maxed specs at 35-40fps to 25-30fps

Metro is not as well optimized as Bioshock or Crysis are (bioshock is not as hardware hungry to begin with), the team behind it was a lot smaller than the teams/companies behind the games you mentioned, which limited their capabilities to do so.
<- I know this, but it does seem strange that there is no comparable change between my previous rig and this one.

Previous
fx 8150
GTX560 1GB SC
16GB Corsair 1600 Gb Ram

PhysX is disabled, and there is only a 3fps difference between running DOF and no DOF
Last edited by tatumthunderlips; Apr 3, 2013 @ 2:49pm
ChaosBahamut Apr 3, 2013 @ 3:40pm 
Got a guide with a tweak that can boost your performance quite a bit. Can't guarantee you'll get to 60 FPS but it'll still be a pretty sizeable improvement.

Link for your convenience: http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=136345159
tatumthunderlips Apr 3, 2013 @ 3:55pm 
Thank you for offering something other than "she just wont do it"
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Vicarious Apr 3, 2013 @ 3:56pm 
For me, the best settings to use, that still look awesome, but dont wreck the frame rate, is to run in DirectX 9 mode, and High preset. DX11 and Very High preset are not worth the hefty frame rate losses. Also use 4x Anisotropic, 16x gives me bad stutter for some odd reason, and for Anti-Aliasing use FXAA in the Nvidia control panel, it does wonders in Metro, and dosnt hurt your VRAM usage or frame rate as much as the ingame MSAA which is offered in DirectX10 mode.
Vicarious Apr 3, 2013 @ 3:57pm 
Also, Metro is very GPU dependant, so the 8 core cpu you have means squat to this game.
GREENAK47 Apr 3, 2013 @ 6:48pm 
Originally posted by d00m6r:
Also, Metro is very GPU dependant, so the 8 core cpu you have means squat to this game.


yeah as d00m6r said, its very gpu dependant. I have a GTX 670 and i dont have good fps with all maxed @1080.

You can buy another 660 and SLI them :) .
jtgunner Apr 3, 2013 @ 7:14pm 
man io have the same issue with AMD 4130 @ 4.013,Gihabyte 990FXA-UD5 ,8GB kingston hyperX 1600,GTX 650ti boost edition 2GB great card at 179.99.i dont get it either man.

Originally posted by tatumthunderlips:
Not sure why I cant run this game at 60 fps anyone know why?

System Spec:
Processor: AMD FX-8150 Zambezi 3.6GHz Eight-Core Processor with Liquid Cooling Kit
Mobo: Asus M5A99X Evo R2.0
RAM: Corsair Vengance 2x 8GB 1600
GPU: EVGA GTX 660GTX 2GB DDR5 SC
ChaosBahamut Apr 3, 2013 @ 7:15pm 
Check the guide I linked a few posts ago.

Originally posted by jtgunner:
man io have the same issue with AMD 4130 @ 4.013,Gihabyte 990FXA-UD5 ,8GB kingston hyperX 1600,GTX 650ti boost edition 2GB great card at 179.99.i dont get it either man.

Originally posted by tatumthunderlips:
Not sure why I cant run this game at 60 fps anyone know why?

System Spec:
Processor: AMD FX-8150 Zambezi 3.6GHz Eight-Core Processor with Liquid Cooling Kit
Mobo: Asus M5A99X Evo R2.0
RAM: Corsair Vengance 2x 8GB 1600
GPU: EVGA GTX 660GTX 2GB DDR5 SC
Mc Intire Apr 4, 2013 @ 7:25am 
The 660GTX is one of nVidias weaker cards along with the 560GTX, hence the ti editions for both cards that boost performance by a rough 15 to 20%. I would have recommended one of those editions instead buying the GTX, but in your case SLI mode might be a better idea. It supports many more recent games, and as far as I know Metro is among them.

It's great you got the Octacore at a fair price, however I have learned that especially FPSs don't care much for superior CPUs (games like anno are a tad more CPU hungry), and since barely any game nowadays supports proper quadcores, and none supports octacores, the additional cores are dead weight (they take up power but don't imrove performance). You might have been better off with an intel i5 CPU. I have a 3 year old i5 in my rig, recently upgraded it with a 660ti and got nearly double of the previous performance just by that and can now run metro in maxxed out settings with 55FPS.

Of course, if you do some CPU heavy editing stuff on that computer too, it might still have beeen a good choice to take the octacore
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