Utopia GFR Feb 18, 2013 @ 12:30pm
Cannot beat the Fnarf boss in the Highland Park level
Hi all!
I just can't beat Fnarf... tried with the bow and/or summoning help but it doesn't work, any hints?
Last edited by Utopia GFR; Feb 18, 2013 @ 12:31pm
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Blade12775 Feb 18, 2013 @ 4:01pm 
I just beat him. Did u go all the way to the end of the level? He appears once or twice before the end. You'll know this because he keeps disappearing. At the end, summon you crossbow chick and if you can summon two creatures your choice on the other one.
Utopia GFR Feb 19, 2013 @ 7:12am 
Hi!
Yeah, I went all the way to the end of the level.
This is my combination :
Bow+Crossbow Chick.
It does not work though... any other creature I should summon? (maybe the healing one?).
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Blade12775 Feb 20, 2013 @ 5:56pm 
Try the healer then, he'll summon some badies, kill them, and then you should be able to kill him after. Use the bow on him though. He teleports away from you all the time. He was easy for me cause I had a fire bow dropped, like one level before him.
Utopia GFR Feb 21, 2013 @ 3:35am 
OK, cool, I'll try that, thanks :D
Utopia GFR Feb 21, 2013 @ 1:04pm 
OK so I tried with the healer and the bow chick but it doesn't work. I cannot summon more than one creature at the same time. Each time i kill the two badies, Fnarf summons two others and he teleports so fast that I don't even have the time to touch him with the bow.
Is there maybe a spot location where I can stay and hit or must I always move?
Maybe a video or a screenshot could help...
Blade12775 Feb 21, 2013 @ 2:14pm 
He does that a couple of time and then stops. I can't remember how man times he does it but it does stop after 3 or 4 times or it may have been when his health get's low enough, don't know which. He doesn't have a location that he teleports to. He just does and it's always just off screen. You won't be able to get near him until he stops or is on screen. When you kill the badies advance on him as fast as possible or peck him with the bow. Use the healer if you have to. Whichever works better for you. For me, it was the crossbow chick until she died, then I switched to the healer and advanced on Fnarf with double weapons. Don't forget to block and then attack. It get's you a free attack on the goblins :)
Niskat Oct 24, 2013 @ 1:04am 
All of this is complete bogus! I just spent about an hour trying to kill this guy and none of this stuff worked! The bow chick doesn't aim fast enough to shoot him before he teleports. The rat doesn't reach him either, although it's pretty fast. In fact he cannot be hit with a sword at all, I tried. I assume he can only be hit with a bow and only by the player.

This was my strategy:
He teleports to 3 designated spots. If you keep running around these 3 spots he always teleports away and doesn't get to summon his minions - but you can't hit him either so that's pointless. I tried to put my dog in one of the spots (with the left arrow command, or was it the right?) and then I summoned the rat which was chasing him from the second spot. The rat more or less stayed at one of the spots because he teleports right away. I myself stayed at the third point, trying to hit him but it DOES. NOT. WORK. He is still too fast!

So now I'm stuck at this f*cking level because I don't have any bow and I'm really (!) pissed off. I'm so angry right now about this stupid boss level. Makes me hate the whole game, actually. I don't think I'm going to play it again and this makes me even more angry because I invested money and time in this piece of sh*t and now I'm not even going to be able to finish it!
They cannot make the game unsolvable if you chose one thing wrong. Especially not if the gameplay is actually pretty weak and the story is the only diamond about it. This shouldn't be so hard, dammit!

What's the moral to this? Get a bow or don't get the game...
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Gel214th Dec 25, 2013 @ 4:42am 
Originally posted by Niskat:
So now I'm stuck at this f*cking level because I don't have any bow and I'm really (!) pissed off. I'm so angry right now about this stupid boss level. Makes me hate the whole game, actually. I don't think I'm going to play it again and this makes me even more angry because I invested money and time in this piece of sh*t and now I'm not even going to be able to finish it!
They cannot make the game unsolvable if you chose one thing wrong. Especially not if the gameplay is actually pretty weak and the story is the only diamond about it. This shouldn't be so hard, dammit!

What's the moral to this? Get a bow or don't get the game...
This is what Cheat Codes are for. Take a look here, try the in-game cheats and see if that can get you past the level before trying the trainer.

http://www.cheathappens.com/10898-PC-Bards_Tale_The_cheats
svdp Jan 1 @ 8:24am 
Originally posted by Niskat:
All of this is complete bogus! I just spent about an hour trying to kill this guy and none of this stuff worked! The bow chick doesn't aim fast enough to shoot him before he teleports. The rat doesn't reach him either, although it's pretty fast. In fact he cannot be hit with a sword at all, I tried. I assume he can only be hit with a bow and only by the player.

This was my strategy:
He teleports to 3 designated spots. If you keep running around these 3 spots he always teleports away and doesn't get to summon his minions - but you can't hit him either so that's pointless. I tried to put my dog in one of the spots (with the left arrow command, or was it the right?) and then I summoned the rat which was chasing him from the second spot. The rat more or less stayed at one of the spots because he teleports right away. I myself stayed at the third point, trying to hit him but it DOES. NOT. WORK. He is still too fast!

So now I'm stuck at this f*cking level because I don't have any bow and I'm really (!) pissed off. I'm so angry right now about this stupid boss level. Makes me hate the whole game, actually. I don't think I'm going to play it again and this makes me even more angry because I invested money and time in this piece of sh*t and now I'm not even going to be able to finish it!
They cannot make the game unsolvable if you chose one thing wrong. Especially not if the gameplay is actually pretty weak and the story is the only diamond about it. This shouldn't be so hard, dammit!

What's the moral to this? Get a bow or don't get the game...

Actually... while pretty difficult, it *is* possible to kill him. I've done it myself. I do agree that it's near impossible to kill him off directly with a sword, and I had little luck trying combinations of summoned parties (didn't try the new Vorpal rat, though). So, unless some of the above posters are correct and Fnarf stops summoning two minions (who attack you on sight) after 3-4 times (I doubt that he does stop so soon, according to me he keeps summoning endlessly, but I'm not sure), there is no use going after him with a sword or your summoned companions - or maybe you'd need to have very high Rythm stats, perhaps.

Anyway, I took the other way out - without involving any cheatmodes - and that is by ranged attacks. Now, I did have a bow, but luckily, even if you didn't buy one, you can get (a very good) one which fires fire-arrows; you can find it a bit before you have that last level with Fnarf as endboss. It's a treasure drop when you come by a skeleton (the second one, in fact) called 'ex-chosen one' ;-) or something to that regard. It's a pretty powerful bow, and you can use it to easily kill off the treetrunk/hammer throwing Trows of that level as well.

Now, you proceed as follows: when the Fnarf-intro movie ends, stay completely at the beginning/start/bottom of the area. Slowly move a bit forward and the moment you see a red dot on the map you stop. You can actually even fire before you see a red dot and still hit him, but it's a bit tricky to know when you come too close - and when you do, he summons his minions, so you better have your healer and another summon with you. But in that case, just withdraw to the bottom again, and the minions will cease/return, or you can kill them off, and no new ones will be summoned if you stay far away enough.

Now, anyway, at the border of when Fnarf (does not) notices you, start firing your bow. Even if you don't see him, Fnarf will still get hit now and then. There are a few places he can be, so if you don't see any damage after several times (at least a dozen times, though) try to aim at another direction, because he might have transported himself to another point on that map. (Note that the auto-aim is pretty broad though, thus it's no use making slight adjustments. Even if it's vaguely in the right direction, and nothing stands in between, sooner or later you will hit him.) Now, it does take a while, but that way you can kill him off, and without use of any cheat-modes. I can garantuee this works, since I tried and succeeded with it myself (though granted, I got a bit frustrated at first too, when I tried it with my sword/minions).

For those that didn't buy a bow: I repeat; you get one as a drop from a skeleton, not THAT far from/before this endboss fight. So just go back or to an earlier save, and look for that skeleton, pick up the bow, and you'll be able to pass the level the way I described.

It is true they could have made an additional way of beating Fnarf, so he gets a bit easier to kill. It works the way I described it, but I'm wondering if that's really the way it was meant to kill him. It's borderline nigh-impossible to kill him in another way, me thinks, and this extreme-long-range-arrow-shooting him to death feels a bit weird.
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Utopia GFR Jan 1 @ 8:47am 
Well, thanks for sharing that strategy.
I gave up playing this game but I'll give it another try!
Utopia GFR Jan 3 @ 2:35pm 
Well, it worked!

Just use the bow with fire-arrows and shoot from the beginning of the area.

Took me about 20 minutes but at least I can go further on with the game now, thanks!
svdp Jan 3 @ 5:32pm 
*contains spoilers*

My pleasure! Glad to be of help! Now that it's substantiated by another party, I think little doubt will remain with others that want to get on with the game, but couldn't get passed the level of killing Fnarf. Guess it's sort of a Christmas/new-years present for those that couldn't get passed that level and thought the game 'ended' there for them. :-) I still think they should have put a more viable, alternative way of killing him off, though. A small mistake not to do so, imho.

I've got quite some hours on the game by now (34 hours) and it really is a terrific game! Ok, the gameplay is a bit simplified now and then (all objects you find get turned into silver, some levels are a tad repetitive, etc.), but all in all, it's been a while since I had so much fun. The story - viewed from an anti-hero's perspective - is (even, or especially, today) original and great, the subplots are novel and well found (think about the boss fight with the (un)dead viking king, which isn't a classical 'fight against'), and the conversations are often truly sublime, especially the snarky sarcastic remarks of the Bard and of the one(s) it's aimed at. The songs are usually very catchy and a boon too. And the eye for detail (aka; in regard to lore, or funny hints) is quite high, for such an old game.

Seen in 2014, the game is not top-notch anymore in regard to graphics or game-play-mechanics, but I can honestly say it gives more fun than many a WOW-clone derivatives or more modern RPG's. It's still needed to think tactical about what party/summons to use, though maybe the bow is a bit overpowered (certainly in the Fnarf-fight) compared to other weapons. At some levels, preparation and timing is very important too. There are a few things that would improve upon this game for sure, if it were made nowadays. But...these kind of games aren't made these days anymore, which is exactly the point (and a pity).

For all its little faults and hints of old age that is showing now and then, I can honestly say it's been a while since I enjoyed as much a classical RPG like this. Sure, it's no Baldurs gate and certainly no Skyrim, but in its own right, it's a gem. The light-hearted/fun take on things is what is missing in current RPG's. It's been since... Drakensang that I had an RPG with that more frivolous, light&fun approach in it. Sometimes, it's quite hilarious and I really laughed out loud. And sometimes, the gameplay does surprise you after all (floating/moving ice to fight on!). It's like a good mix of indie and classical oldschool-RPG, which simplified some aspects to focus on others. In short; it's kept simple, but fun.

I don't think it will be to everyone's taste, but to those that can appreciate the strong points I just indicated, the game will certainly be appreciated. Since I bought it for 2,24 EURO at promotion, I can't say I'm sorry of the money: it has been a splendid, huge price/fun benefit-comparison for me - and as said, I'm already at 34 hours and I'm still not finished. It's CERTAINLY worth that money, and even the regular price is still worth it, now that I'm playing it and can gauge it's value. If you're into this kind of old-school/funny RPG, this is definitely worth a try.
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