The Polite Sodomizer Feb 22 @ 4:08pm
Conflicts with complete mod
Im wondering if the Misery mod might conflict with the stalker complete mod i have, does it or does it not?
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Johnny Anarchy Feb 22 @ 4:08pm 
Yes it will conflict.

You have to pick 1 and only 1.
The Polite Sodomizer Feb 22 @ 4:10pm 
alright then
naomha Feb 22 @ 9:47pm 
You'll probably still have to do a complete uninstall of CoP first because Complete will mess some things up if you just uninstall it and try to install Misery 2.1. Make sure you delete any remnants of CoP from you PublicDocs folder as well.
zenhob Feb 23 @ 8:14am 
This is interesting. FWIW I had Complete installed and just installed Misery on top of it without a thought. Been having a great time playing Misery since then...
The Polite Sodomizer Feb 23 @ 2:11pm 
That would be great to install misery without uninstalling complete, as im not entirely sure how much ill like misery.
Leb Feb 25 @ 3:27pm 
semi-on-topic

I haven't played COP (but I have played through SOC vanilla), what are the pros/cons of complete vs misery. What should I go with and why
Johnny Anarchy Feb 25 @ 4:04pm 
Originally posted by Leb:
semi-on-topic

I haven't played COP (but I have played through SOC vanilla), what are the pros/cons of complete vs misery. What should I go with and why

Complete is old, outdated, and not at all what it should have been. MISERY is new and.. That's about all I got. The poor balance drove me nuts.
Leb Feb 25 @ 4:54pm 
So I've got old and outdated vs new and unbalanced... should I keep it vanilla? xD

doing some reading online.. sounds like Misery 2.1 fixes a lot of balance issues with 2.0
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Johnny Anarchy Feb 25 @ 6:46pm 
You can use I Work Alone. It's what MISERY started as.
PsychoMantis Feb 26 @ 11:02pm 
Let me put it this way. Misery has a great idea but sort of turns it on it's head. It ends up turning the player into a psuedo-bandit just to survive the world. It's possible to only be a goody goody two shoes however you're going to be using ♥♥♥♥♥ equipment and even worse armor for a larger portion of the game than others. The balance is absolutely abhorrant and mutants have a really bad tendency to have more hp and move faster than they are actually supposed to. Snorks in particular.....♥♥♥♥ snorks.....seriously....♥♥♥♥....Snorks.
PsychoMantis Feb 26 @ 11:03pm 
A lot of Misery's problems could be balanced simply by re adding the difficulty option. The fact is not everyone feels like dropping four hours into a sitting just because the devs felt like barking up the " Master or NOTHING " tree.
The Polite Sodomizer Feb 26 @ 11:24pm 
My main problem with the mod is the accuracy the npcs have. I had a bandit fling a grenade across the map directly into my face and kill me. They are a bit too accurate.
naomha Feb 26 @ 11:26pm 
Originally posted by zenhob:
This is interesting. FWIW I had Complete installed and just installed Misery on top of it without a thought. Been having a great time playing Misery since then...

That shouldn't even work. Complete comes with an old version of Atmosfear and Absolute Texture packs. Misery uses the new ones. It would conflict greatly. Doesn't even stand to reason it should work concerning the Absolute texture packs alter terrain geometry now.
trikster Feb 27 @ 2:27am 
Actually, we're planning on including a new game mode called "Rookie". It will be specifically intended for those who have problems with the balance of things in Misery.
http://www.miserymod.com/?p=368

PsychoMantis:
The point is: we like the balance as it is right now so we have no reason to change it substantially. If it isn't exactly up your alley you're most welcome to edit the appropriate files yourself to make the mod suit your preferences to a larger degree. However, this aforementioned mode will most certainly make the process much easier.
PsychoMantis Feb 27 @ 8:15am 
We've been over this with each other trikster, I know you can modify the game. I get it.....seriously.....but how many of your other users are like me and are willing " and able " to go and do such a thing? Also, I would hope you are taking into consideration that " uber easy " is just as bad as " ultra badass " It's better to find a happy medium than to go polar opposite. My opinion of course, but given that I've done my best to balance all manor of games that I play with friends, it sort of proves a point when most of them want a good balance rather than something being too easy or ball bustingly hard. Also, please don't take this message as hostility, I promise it wasn't written that way ^_^

I for one enjoy Misery except for the artifacts and the fact that if NPC's get to gear before the player they will quite literally despawn it most of the time. I fixed the artifacts, however I'm still digging to figure out the gear despawning when NPC's loot a stalker's body.
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