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Mini_Holmesy 14 SEP 2013 a las 13:37
1600x900 only resolution that works
Serious Sam 3 1600x900 is the only resolution that works all others such as 1280x720 (which is the one i would rather prefer to play on due to decreased lag) and 1366x768 all play but i can only see in a square like view ( very hard to explain) i can also see through the mpa in front of me.

This is very difficult to explain but is there particular settings i should have on in order for me to play on lowered resolution
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AN BIFFED ELF!!!! 14 SEP 2013 a las 14:21 
You could at least play in 1600x900 and lower your rendered resolution a bit. Check the advanced options for it. It's like rendering low res in your high res.
Última edición por AN BIFFED ELF!!!!; 14 SEP 2013 a las 14:22
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Mini_Holmesy 14 SEP 2013 a las 14:27 
Publicado originalmente por reirei:
You could at least play in 1600x900 and lower your rendered resolution a bit. Check the advanced options for it. It's like rendering low res in your high res.

No, iwant to play on 1280x720 as it looks a lot better on my monitor, i can do that and have been doing that but i prefer 1280x720
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Cunin 14 SEP 2013 a las 15:16 
post a screenshot and a logfile please
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Mini_Holmesy 14 SEP 2013 a las 18:21 
sure ill post screen shot of 1280x720 but where can i locate logfile?
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Mini_Holmesy 14 SEP 2013 a las 18:26 
http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=178617841

its worse when you first enter the museum and first turn on the flashlight, but yeah this is the place where you talk to that guy before he gets blown up by the kamikaze guy over te radio.
Última edición por Mini_Holmesy; 14 SEP 2013 a las 18:27
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spiff 14 SEP 2013 a las 20:25 
Sorry your link gave me an error. Somehting wrong with your screenshot ?
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Mini_Holmesy 15 SEP 2013 a las 6:05 
Publicado originalmente por spiff:
Sorry your link gave me an error. Somehting wrong with your screenshot ?

works for me, It should work???

Última edición por Mini_Holmesy; 15 SEP 2013 a las 6:05
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Mini_Holmesy 15 SEP 2013 a las 6:06 
try this http://cloud-3.steampowered.com/ugc/903259359432780470/25D2DF7331A990E45F4BA6720EBA941C83C2FB6D/
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DEN [CT]  [desarrollador] 17 SEP 2013 a las 7:20 
Please read FAQ about sending a log file.
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Mini_Holmesy 17 SEP 2013 a las 13:28 

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15:18:10 LOG: Initializing timer.
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DEN [CT]  [desarrollador] 18 SEP 2013 a las 2:26 
Does going to window mode and back helps?
(Try with alt+enter, please.)

If not, try to set MSAA to 2x or 4x.
TIA
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Mini_Holmesy 18 SEP 2013 a las 10:01 
Publicado originalmente por DEN CT:
Does going to window mode and back helps?
(Try with alt+enter, please.)

If not, try to set MSAA to 2x or 4x.
TIA

kk i shall try thanks for the feedback ill let you know if it works
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Mini_Holmesy 18 SEP 2013 a las 10:07 
Publicado originalmente por DEN CT:
Does going to window mode and back helps?
(Try with alt+enter, please.)

If not, try to set MSAA to 2x or 4x.
TIA

ALT + Enter Worked, couldnt find msaa but didint need it thank you
DEN [CT]
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