jeneeck Mar 3, 2013 @ 11:03am
Игра сильно тормозит
У меня довольно мощный комп: AMD FX-6200, 3.8Ghz, 6 ядер / Radeon HD7970 3GB / 16GB оперативки / Win 8, но игра тормозит даже при низких настройках. При автоопределении параметров игра выставляет везде "ультра". Полагаю это процессор не дружит с игрой. Если так, то есть решение проблемы без замены процессора?
Last edited by jeneeck; Mar 3, 2013 @ 11:12am
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AlenL  [developer] Mar 4, 2013 @ 12:14am 
Is this a Bulldozer CPU? If so, you most likely need a BIOS update. It is often the case with Steam games on that CPU, due to a bug in CPU microcode. Google around for it you will find a lot of info.
zion Mar 4, 2013 @ 6:00am 
Чувак сверху советует обновить биос, мож поможет..

У меня на: i7 920 @ 4.0Ghz+ GTX580 херовато работает, пришлось убавлять настройки, но фпс временами падает и заметно оч.
jeneeck Mar 4, 2013 @ 6:20am 
Ведьмак 2, F.E.A.R 3 да и много остальных современных игрушек на пределах летают, а с сэмом какая-та фигня. Биос трогать не стану - просто в сэма играть не буду, а жаль...
AlenL  [developer] Mar 4, 2013 @ 9:55am 
Please see here and notice that AMD acknowledges that there is issue with some Steam games on FX CPUs. They recommend to update the BIOS. This is something we cannot help with. We have FX CPUs for our compatibility testing, but they do not cause any problems. It is very specific, probably depending on other hardware, or on revision of CPU, etc.
zion Mar 4, 2013 @ 1:03pm 
@jeneeck,
Разработчик советует всётаки обновить. Говорит что это известная проблема с процом как у тебя

@AlenL
OP said that he won't be touching bios.
btw, even with settings all moderatly cranked down, my fps dips from around 100 to 30-40 with not that much happening on the screen.
So far I've noticed this in a place before the you enter the musem on the first stage.
Is this normal?
jeneeck Mar 4, 2013 @ 2:54pm 
Обновил всё-таки биос до последней версии - играет просто супер - на пределах! AlenL - Thank you very much;)
AlenL  [developer] Mar 5, 2013 @ 3:35am 
jeneeck, thanks for the feedback, glad I could help. :)

Btw, seems I accidentally didn't paste the link to AMD site. For future reference: http://support.amd.com/us/kbarticles/Pages/STEAMGamesonAMDFXplatforms.aspx

zion, if you are on Intel, it is probably a different issue. If it happens before you enter museum, it could be when the Netrica screen appears on the HUD, lower-left side? We had some issues with that before. We think we fixed them all, but perhaps we missed some. Could you please post a log file from one such session?
zion Mar 5, 2013 @ 8:48am 
Here's my FPS from FRAPS, I guess Min 0 comes from when it's being saved.
# sometime after the ship blew the building
2013-03-05 18:25:11 - Sam3
Frames: 5527 - Time: 69015ms - Avg: 80.084 - Min: 38 - Max: 129
2013-03-05 18:26:22 - Sam3
Frames: 13062 - Time: 165969ms - Avg: 78.701 - Min: 0 - Max: 183
#killing baddie before you enter the museum
2013-03-05 18:29:10 - Sam3
Frames: 7863 - Time: 152350ms - Avg: 51.611 - Min: 0 - Max: 169
#running around before the museum yard
2013-03-05 18:31:48 - Sam3
Frames: 9555 - Time: 109482ms - Avg: 87.275 - Min: 62 - Max: 146
# entered the outside area of the museum, was killing bone baddies
2013-03-05 18:33:39 - Sam3
Frames: 16738 - Time: 135097ms - Avg: 123.896 - Min: 0 - Max: 212


Here's the log file right from the ship destroying the building till I kill the 'bone' baddies:

18:26:02 LOG: Requesting auto save...
18:26:03 LOG: In memory saved game created successfully with size of 3.02MB(24.00MB) in 0.083752512. seconds
18:26:03 LOG: Game successfully saved with size of 0.65MB(6.00MB) at 2013/03/05 18:26:03. ($D:/Steam/userdata/38252/41070/local/SeriousSam3/SavedGames/0000000039_QuickSave.sav)
18:26:03 LOG: Save game created in 0.27481752 seconds.
18:26:14 LOG: resFreeUnusedProxies() released '3' and reverted 0 proxy objects in 0.00 seconds.
18:26:14 LOG: resFreeUnusedStock() released 1 files in 0.01 seconds.
18:26:20 INF: Screenshot taken (Temp/ScreenShots/01_CairoSquare_0009.jpg, 1920 x 1200)
18:26:23 INF: Screenshot taken (Temp/ScreenShots/01_CairoSquare_0010.jpg, 1920 x 1200)
18:27:04 LOG: Requesting auto save...
18:27:04 LOG: In memory saved game created successfully with size of 3.09MB(24.00MB) in 0.08631624. seconds
18:27:04 LOG: Game successfully saved with size of 0.66MB(6.00MB) at 2013/03/05 18:27:04. ($D:/Steam/userdata/38252/41070/local/SeriousSam3/SavedGames/0000000040_QuickSave.sav)
18:27:04 LOG: Save game created in 0.27864966 seconds.
18:28:31 LOG: Requesting auto save...
18:28:31 LOG: In memory saved game created successfully with size of 3.04MB(24.00MB) in 0.083961856. seconds
18:28:31 LOG: Game successfully saved with size of 0.65MB(6.00MB) at 2013/03/05 18:28:31. ($D:/Steam/userdata/38252/41070/local/SeriousSam3/SavedGames/0000000041_QuickSave.sav)
18:28:32 LOG: Save game created in 0.27784562 seconds.
18:28:59 LOG: Timestamp: 2013/03/05 18:28:59
18:28:59 LOG: Stopping simulation.
18:28:59 LOG: Timestamp: 2013/03/05 18:28:59
18:28:59 LOG: Stopping world 'Content/SeriousSam3/Levels/01_BFE/01_CairoSquare/01_CairoSquare.wld'.
18:28:59 LOG: resFreeUnusedProxies() released '1' and reverted 0 proxy objects in 0.00 seconds.
18:28:59 LOG: World deleted in 0.07(0.07)sec.
18:28:59 LOG: resFreeUnusedProxies() released '0' and reverted 0 proxy objects in 0.00 seconds.
18:28:59 LOG: resFreeUnusedStock() released 0 files in 0.01 seconds.
18:28:59 LOG: World stopped in 0.08sec.
18:28:59 LOG: Timestamp: 2013/03/05 18:28:59
18:28:59 LOG: Loading '$D:/Steam/userdata/38252/41070/local/SeriousSam3/SavedGames/0000000041_QuickSave.sav'.
18:28:59 LOG: Started loading world "$D:/Steam/userdata/38252/41070/local/SeriousSam3/SavedGames/0000000041_QuickSave.sav"
18:29:00 LOG: resFreeUnusedProxies() released '1' and reverted 0 proxy objects in 0.00 seconds.
18:29:00 LOG: resFreeUnusedStock() released 55 files in 0.01 seconds.
18:29:00 LOG: Finished loading world. (process memory: 1618 MB)
18:29:00 TRC: 29 sound channels reinitialized.
18:29:08 LOG: resFreeUnusedProxies() released '0' and reverted 0 proxy objects in 0.00 seconds.
18:29:08 LOG: resFreeUnusedStock() released 0 files in 0.01 seconds.
18:29:08 INF: Screenshot taken (Temp/ScreenShots/01_CairoSquare_0011.jpg, 1920 x 1200)
18:29:10 INF: Screenshot taken (Temp/ScreenShots/01_CairoSquare_0012.jpg, 1920 x 1200)
18:29:11 LOG: resFreeUnusedProxies() released '1' and reverted 0 proxy objects in 0.00 seconds.
18:29:11 LOG: resFreeUnusedStock() released 1 files in 0.01 seconds.
18:30:13 LOG: Requesting auto save...
18:30:14 LOG: In memory saved game created successfully with size of 3.03MB(24.00MB) in 0.11849346. seconds
18:30:14 LOG: Game successfully saved with size of 0.66MB(6.00MB) at 2013/03/05 18:30:14. ($D:/Steam/userdata/38252/41070/local/SeriousSam3/SavedGames/0000000042_QuickSave.sav)
18:30:14 LOG: Save game created in 0.30474812 seconds.
18:30:22 LOG: Requesting auto save...
18:30:22 LOG: In memory saved game created successfully with size of 3.04MB(24.00MB) in 0.08525448. seconds
18:30:22 LOG: Game successfully saved with size of 0.66MB(6.00MB) at 2013/03/05 18:30:22. ($D:/Steam/userdata/38252/41070/local/SeriousSam3/SavedGames/0000000043_QuickSave.sav)
18:30:22 LOG: Save game created in 0.2720713 seconds.
18:30:40 LOG: resFreeUnusedProxies() released '2' and reverted 0 proxy objects in 0.00 seconds.
18:30:40 LOG: resFreeUnusedStock() released 2 files in 0.01 seconds.
18:30:40 LOG: Thumbnail generated in 0.19 seconds
18:30:40 LOG: In memory saved game created successfully with size of 3.15MB(24.00MB) in 0.086783296. seconds
18:30:41 LOG: Game successfully saved with size of 0.69MB(6.00MB) at 2013/03/05 18:30:41. ($D:/Steam/userdata/38252/41070/local/SeriousSam3/SavedGames/0000000044_Save.sav)
18:30:41 LOG: Save game created in 0.4812794 seconds.
18:31:22 TRC: [Direct3D] Device has been reset successfully.
18:31:23 LOG: resFreeUnusedProxies() released '1' and reverted 0 proxy objects in 0.00 seconds.
18:31:23 LOG: resFreeUnusedStock() released 1 files in 0.02 seconds.
18:31:42 INF: Screenshot taken (Temp/ScreenShots/01_CairoSquare_0013.jpg, 1920 x 1200)
18:31:48 INF: Screenshot taken (Temp/ScreenShots/01_CairoSquare_0014.jpg, 1920 x 1200)
18:33:37 INF: Screenshot taken (Temp/ScreenShots/01_CairoSquare_0015.jpg, 1920 x 1200)
18:33:39 INF: Screenshot taken (Temp/ScreenShots/01_CairoSquare_0016.jpg, 1920 x 1200)
18:33:55 LOG: Requesting auto save...
18:33:55 LOG: In memory saved game created successfully with size of 3.06MB(24.00MB) in 0.084532648. seconds
18:33:55 LOG: Game successfully saved with size of 0.68MB(6.00MB) at 2013/03/05 18:33:55. ($D:/Steam/userdata/38252/41070/local/SeriousSam3/SavedGames/0000000045_QuickSave.sav)
18:33:55 LOG: Save game created in 0.27906674 seconds.
18:33:57 LOG: Started loading world "Content/SeriousSam3/Levels/Menu/NetricsaLevel.wld"
18:33:57 LOG: Finished loading world. (process memory: 1670 MB)
18:33:57 LOG: Timestamp: 2013/03/05 18:33:57
18:33:57 INF: Started simulation on 'Content/SeriousSam3/Levels/Menu/NetricsaLevel.wld' in 1490.58 seconds.
18:33:57 TRC: 1 sound channels reinitialized.
18:34:28 WRN: Netricsa HUD element has expired.
18:34:41 LOG: Requesting auto save...
18:34:41 LOG: In memory saved game created successfully with size of 3.06MB(24.00MB) in 0.094262192. seconds
18:34:41 LOG: Game successfully saved with size of 0.68MB(6.00MB) at 2013/03/05 18:34:41. ($D:/Steam/userdata/38252/41070/local/SeriousSam3/SavedGames/0000000046_QuickSave.sav)
18:34:41 LOG: Save game created in 0.28820696 seconds.
18:35:04 LOG: Timestamp: 2013/03/05 18:35:04
18:35:04 LOG: Stopping simulation.
18:35:04 LOG: Timestamp: 2013/03/05 18:35:04
18:35:04 LOG: Stopping world 'Content/SeriousSam3/Levels/01_BFE/01_CairoSquare/01_CairoSquare.wld'.
18:35:04 LOG: resFreeUnusedProxies() released '2' and reverted 0 proxy objects in 0.00 seconds.
18:35:04 LOG: World deleted in 0.09(0.09)sec.
18:35:04 LOG: resFreeUnusedProxies() released '0' and reverted 0 proxy objects in 0.00 seconds.
18:35:04 LOG: resFreeUnusedStock() released 4 files in 0.02 seconds.
18:35:04 LOG: World stopped in 0.11sec.
18:35:04 LOG: Timestamp: 2013/03/05 18:35:04
18:35:04 LOG: Loading '$D:/Steam/userdata/38252/41070/local/SeriousSam3/SavedGames/0000000046_QuickSave.sav'.
18:35:04 LOG: Started loading world "$D:/Steam/userdata/38252/41070/local/SeriousSam3/SavedGames/0000000046_QuickSave.sav"
18:35:05 LOG: resFreeUnusedProxies() released '1' and reverted 0 proxy objects in 0.00 seconds.
18:35:05 LOG: resFreeUnusedStock() released 55 files in 0.01 seconds.
18:35:05 LOG: Finished loading world. (process memory: 1648 MB)
18:35:06 TRC: 32 sound channels reinitialized.
18:35:52 LOG: resFreeUnusedProxies() released '0' and reverted 0 proxy objects in 0.00 seconds.
18:35:52 LOG: resFreeUnusedStock() released 0 files in 0.01 seconds.
18:35:54 INF: Screenshot taken (Temp/ScreenShots/01_CairoSquare_0017.jpg, 1920 x 1200)
18:35:58 LOG: Timestamp: 2013/03/05 18:35:58
18:35:58 LOG: Stopping simulation.
18:35:58 LOG: Timestamp: 2013/03/05 18:35:58
18:35:58 LOG: Stopping world 'Content/SeriousSam3/Levels/01_BFE/01_CairoSquare/01_CairoSquare.wld'.
18:35:58 LOG: Player profile saved with size 2.74kB(96.00kB) at 2013/03/05 18:35:58.
18:35:58 LOG: resFreeUnusedProxies() released '1' and reverted 0 proxy objects in 0.02 seconds.
18:35:58 LOG: World deleted in 0.08(0.06)sec.
18:35:58 LOG: resFreeUnusedProxies() released '0' and reverted 0 proxy objects in 0.00 seconds.
18:35:59 LOG: resFreeUnusedStock() released 3028 files in 0.13 seconds.
18:35:59 LOG: World stopped in 0.21sec.
18:35:59 LOG: resFreeUnusedProxies() released '10' and reverted 0 proxy objects in 0.00 seconds.
18:35:59 LOG: resFreeUnusedStock() released 1 files in 0.00 seconds.
18:36:02 LOG: resFreeUnusedProxies() released '1' and reverted 0 proxy objects in 0.00 seconds.
18:36:02 LOG: resFreeUnusedStock() released 1 files in 0.01 seconds.
18:36:02 LOG: Saving cvars to "$D:/Steam/userdata/38252/41070/local/SeriousSam3.ini".
18:36:02 LOG: Timestamp: 2013/03/05 18:36:02
18:36:02 LOG: Core is shutting down

Also in the log, I've notices this:
18:08:48 INF: Available for textures: 4031 MB
Should this value match the value of memory on the GPU?

AlenL  [developer] Mar 5, 2013 @ 10:39pm 
Yes, that should match the amount of GPU memory. If it doesn't, it can cause the game to overallocate and thus cause slowdowns. If that is the problem, you can manually lower the "GPU memory" setting in the Options>Performance menu.
zion Mar 6, 2013 @ 12:57am 
I guess this is the issue then, since I only have 1500 megs.
WIll try when I get home.
Thanks!
Rasta Pedobear (your dad) Mar 6, 2013 @ 3:06am 
For me it's: Available for textures: 3769 MB and this value doesn't change when I change GPU memory, even if I set it to the lowest. It should be 1024 MB for me.
DEN [CT]  [developer] Mar 6, 2013 @ 4:39am 
That number is how much driver reported, it doesn't change when you change GPU texture settings.
The point is to lower your GPU tex settings if game overallocates textures because driver reported too high amount of RAM available for textures.
HTH
zion Mar 7, 2013 @ 8:35am 
Lowering gpu setting didn't help mutch.
I'ts playable right now sorta but those fps dips really ♥♥♥♥ me off.
Oh well, I'll play Sam when I'll get a beter gpu.
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