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Community Mod Extravaganza
Our Discord server is located here[discord.gg]. Feel free to hang out on the server for standard chit-chat or updates/recaps of potenital discoveries. [Invite updated, courtesy of Kitsu]

Progress: We can now edit the contents of anm0000.fad, the container for many files that were untouchable before. See post #689 for an idea on what we can edit.

Current mods:
Voice restoration for Motivation mini-game (Smoke mod included as toggle feature)
Multifunction Voice Mod[modworkshop.net] (Updated 7/4/2017)
Download this[www.microsoft.com] if you run into a missing DLL error.
Make sure to place the mod in the install directory of steam_criminal.exe.
You'll need the latest Steam release/non-modded files for the Voice Mod to work.

Color-blind mod (Affects the color tint of various objects and enemies in Punishment mini-games to assist those who are color-blind): Here[cdn.discordapp.com]

Dialogue Re-translation:
Cell Block: Here[cdn.discordapp.com]
Punishment mini-game: Dialogue[modworkshop.net]+ Punishment Names[modworkshop.net] (latter is based on translator's edits)

Comparison screenshots for Sprite Up-res Mod[imgur.com] (Included with latest release of Multifunction Voice Mod)

Markdsm-5's "Lewdity Mod" (OPTIONAL, adds 'visual features' to punishment mini-game): Here[cdn.discordapp.com]

All mods linked above are possibly not current. Join the Discord channel linked above for up-to-date builds.

Modders:
Name
Role
Usagirei
Programmer
Fusecavator
Programmer
Markdsm
Tester/Manager (Lewdity Mod)
stray_pengo
Translator/Dialogue Editor
Ke-Y
Artist (Lewdity Mod)
Ultima modifica da Kirara Kurashiki; 10 ott, ore 16:27
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The reason they don't offer the dlc themselves is mostly to avoid getting in trouble on their end and shifting the responsibility onto the modding community. It also allow them to sell the game on more platform.

The way I see it, they are only censoring it due to the rating, but they aren't against modders removing the censorship, nor are they enforcing the game to not have uncensored (or nude) mods like some developers. It's not that different from what happen with "Senran Kagura Shinovi Versus". The fact that pin this thread shows their support for it.

(I know, I would also like it if they did offer the dlc patch for it the way Denpasoft does for their games, this way we know there won't be any bug for the uncensored patch. Allowing the modding community to uncensored the game is the next best thing. If they didn't, I honestly wouldn't bother with the game unless a friend is insistent on me playing the game when the game is not under my radar or if they offer a compelling OST.)
Love what you guys are doing!
Messaggio originale di Malamasala:
Yea that is what I said earlier. If you tell people to "Please remove the voices during this section" the developers will go in and comment the lines of code. So you will have to literally find what binary stuff in the exe counts as playing sound effects, and then insert that into the exe at each place they are needed.

I would suggest playing the game and trying to find what code is called when your characters make sounds in normal gameplay and then somehow extract that sound effect call and insert it at the mini games.

I have no clue how you actually find functions in binary exes. But this is all on NISA for being so lovely at not meeting middle ground with just config settings volume = 0, but complete censorship so they can get their ratings.
It depends on how the game was coded; if there is a file with the playback volumes, then yes, it's pretty annoying they didn't make the change there (it's not like there might be an easy access to it on Vita anyway, especially since I guess they can encrypt the data and stuff).

And about how to recognize a function... I'd say routines are the way to go. Most audio triggers must share some common parts in their file names (by character, event and file type, from what it seems), what functions they call to play the sounds back, the overall structure of an audio trigger... Again, I'm no modder, but from the little coding I've done, and given the fact the code must be structured in a certain way to be coherent so that several people can work on it and still understand what the others did, this is how I see it.
The tactic I went with for sound playback was to look for the ding sound when you score a point. Since the ding happens when your score goes up I figured they'd probably be behind the same condition check nearby, and the score is something predictable that can be searched for. So start in cheat engine and find the score, then drop a breakpoint in olly to find where it adds on the score. From there, walk up the stack trace dropping breakpoints allong the way to test whether each function is one that runs every frame or only when you scored points that frame. Once you find that point, start going back deeper again exploring the branches, redirecting control flow around them or cutting them off when possible without crashing the game to isolate which branch the ding playing is down.
Our Savior! I'm gonna buy the game if it's complete. Power to you my friend
Messaggio originale di lolicon09:
But it is, because you're still buying THEIR game as it was released. This could be something like "hey, people bought this crap at the end, let's release the second game censored too. At the end modders will fix it". NISA has never learned about their mistakes, and honestly this wont be an exception. If this release results in a success, the most probably thing is that they will release their even more censored build of Criminal Girls 2 ( and that one had a♥♥♥♥♥♥ton of changes)

The calculation is much simpler than that:

The people working on this are only being given the budget to make a translation of the Vita version, and then another (probably much smaller) budget to make a port. The people making the port to PC simply don't have the time, money, manpower, or authorization to do all that much. The financial calculation being made isn't "whether this will sell enough to make a profit after paying down the game's costs," it's "whether this game will cover the costs of porting it from Vita to PC." I doubt they expect many sales at all considering the anemic efforts many of these Vita-to-PC ports get, even when they're much larger-name releases with more publicity, like Hyperdevotion Noire received.

If this doesn't sell well enough to cover the porting costs, then the response won't be "we need to spend more money on this product that isn't paying off the money we were already investing into it," it's going to be, "it's not even worth trying to port."

For the rest, just look at this: http://www.nisamerica.com/blog/CG2/

Petitions to get certain games are far from failproof, for that matter. There was a big drive to get petitions to Nintendo to release several different games a few years ago,[en.wikipedia.org] and even with all the support behind it, only two of the games released because of the petition did well. Nintendo even directly said the petitions had no effect on their plans, but even if we make the assumption that they were influenced by the petitions, with a 2-out-of-3 success rate, that's not the kind of risk companies like to take with major investments of money. As stated in the last article I linked, just because someone clicks a "like" button on Facebook or clicks to "sign" an e-petition or gives a thumbs-up on Greenlight doesn't mean any of those people are actually going to pay cold, hard cash when the game hits shelves.

And frankly, I've seen all this same kind of personal attacks and even outright death threats against dev teams that were clearly just one person trying to release a game on Steam in English because he was required to edit the nudity out for his game to get on Steam even though he then provided a patch to add it back in. It doesn't seem to matter, there's no way to stop the abuse and threats against anyone who tries to release "censored" content except to never make content that hints at there ever having been any nudity or other content that might bring censorship down on it in the first place. The end result is what most of the industry already does: Not touch sex or nudity with a 10-foot-pole. These frothing-at-the-mouth accept-no-compromises stances are actively detrimental to the cause you purport to be championing.
Censorship Sucks! We had a huge issue with it in Australia, even after the R18+ was introduced after years of lobbying we still saw stupid censorship. Best of luck with your censorship issues! And keep up this great work to make naughty games stay naughty xD
Messaggio originale di Far too got n hoy today!:
Censorship Sucks! We had a huge issue with it in Australia, even after the R18+ was introduced after years of lobbying we still saw stupid censorship. Best of luck with your censorship issues! And keep up this great work to make naughty games stay naughty xD

well honestly that's kind of the thing. This game isn't really naughty. Honestly the censorship has more to do with context than what you see. Both CG and CG2 has the mechanic of girls being assaulted to make them behave and become stronger. From my understanding CG2 is worse in this regard. But neither of them are really in the naughty category in terms of what you actually see. So what has been censored is more the concept that they had to cover up as some parts of the western audience would pitch a fit about the game teaching it's okay to beat women to make them behave. I personally don't feel this way as, hell, i've played alot of NIS's catalogue, ecchi and suggestive concepts are just par for the course with them (same as team ninja forcing jiggle physics into every one of their games). But this is one of the times i do understand the censorship.
Death threats sounds completely fine with me for censorship. When reason don't reach people, that is when things step up. You'd never get death threats if you understood your customers and worked with them.

Key concept here is that happy people have no reason to be mean. But devastated, ignored and terrorized customers will be very upset.

Solution to avoiding death threats is the same solution as selling more game copies. You stop harassing customers and driving them to insanity.
Messaggio originale di Malamasala:
Death threats sounds completely fine with me for censorship. When reason don't reach people, that is when things step up. You'd never get death threats if you understood your customers and worked with them.

Key concept here is that happy people have no reason to be mean. But devastated, ignored and terrorized customers will be very upset.

Solution to avoiding death threats is the same solution as selling more game copies. You stop harassing customers and driving them to insanity.
da fuq kinda logic is that
Messaggio originale di Malamasala:
Death threats sounds completely fine with me for censorship. When reason don't reach people, that is when things step up. You'd never get death threats if you understood your customers and worked with them.

Key concept here is that happy people have no reason to be mean. But devastated, ignored and terrorized customers will be very upset.

Solution to avoiding death threats is the same solution as selling more game copies. You stop harassing customers and driving them to insanity.

...seriously? "Devastated", "terrorized"? Releasing a game censored for rating purposes and then openly encouraging modders to uncensor it if they want is "harassing" customers?

If THIS is driving you to insanity...it's seriously time for a new hobby. This is taking "first world problems" to an entirely silly level. It's a freaking game about getting bondage-y with cute anime girls. Grow up.
Messaggio originale di Jet Magnum:
Messaggio originale di Malamasala:
Death threats sounds completely fine with me for censorship. When reason don't reach people, that is when things step up. You'd never get death threats if you understood your customers and worked with them.

Key concept here is that happy people have no reason to be mean. But devastated, ignored and terrorized customers will be very upset.

Solution to avoiding death threats is the same solution as selling more game copies. You stop harassing customers and driving them to insanity.

...seriously? "Devastated", "terrorized"? Releasing a game censored for rating purposes and then openly encouraging modders to uncensor it if they want is "harassing" customers?

If THIS is driving you to insanity...it's seriously time for a new hobby. This is taking "first world problems" to an entirely silly level. It's a freaking game about getting bondage-y with cute anime girls. Grow up.

Pretty much my opinion.
Messaggio originale di Malamasala:
Death threats sounds completely fine with me for censorship.
Death threats are NEVER "completely fine" despite which side of the argument you're on and you've got some issues if you reason like that.
If you want to do a service to everyone who dislikes censorship please stop talking.

EDIT: http://archive.is/3ntmX just in case
Ultima modifica da BattleDonut; 16 gen, ore 5:20
Messaggio originale di BattleDonut:
Messaggio originale di Malamasala:
Death threats sounds completely fine with me for censorship.
Death threats are NEVER "completely" fine despite which side of the argument you're on and you've got some issues if you reason like that.

Who in his right mind would send a death threat because of this? That only proves that person has a mental issue and should find some help or is simply immature.

I'm very against censorship but let's not escalate the issue to stupid heights, or else you're only giving fuel to the ones claiming that a certain kind of content generates a bad/mad/immoral society.
Ultima modifica da Erxkum; 16 gen, ore 5:15
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