Rising Storm/Red Orchestra 2 Multiplayer

Rising Storm/Red Orchestra 2 Multiplayer

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Qarlo Feb 11, 2013 @ 10:39pm
I'm pretty new to FPS, and I'd like to find out why the Punkbuster and VAC systems can't seem to identify aimbot cheaters, etc. I just got finished playing a game on Spartanovka where a guy was able to come around obstacles already aiming in exactly the right place for a kill--so I went to observer mode and followed him. He got over 120 kills by knowing exactly where his targets were, hip shooting his SMG for kill after kill. This was not quick reaction--he always came around already aiming at exactly the right spot. Can anything be done about guys like him? If not, I guess I'll just have to note their names, and not play on a server when I see them there.
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Moskeeto Feb 11, 2013 @ 10:53pm 
Punkbuster might have been disabled on that particular server.

Next time, shift-tab to open your Steam overlay. Click on the 'Players' button to see the players in the server, then go to the cheater's Steam profile. Report him there.
Qarlo Feb 11, 2013 @ 10:59pm 
Thanks . . . What happens when I do this? I'm sure this guy was cheating, but it would be nice if the anti-cheat systems could confirm it. I'd hate to wrongly accuse someone.
Danh Feb 11, 2013 @ 11:38pm 
Some people play too much. Check their hours and if its between 200 to 1000, then they aren't cheating. If it is 1 hour and they have the highest score, probably cheating or a new account. More likely cheating.
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[OK!]TE6PEH[OK!] Feb 12, 2013 @ 9:40pm 
Punkbuster check product keys for games - not ban cheaters
Yggdrasil Feb 14, 2013 @ 2:08am 
I only noticed cheating when I first played this at the game's release, but I haven't seen anything that looks like a cheat in a long, long time. Players who've racked up hundreds upon hundreds of hours and levelled up multiple times are going to be faster, more accurate, and harder to kill. I bought the game at its release and only have 40+ hours (not counting the beta) and so I haven't levelled up that much, but even I can see the difference between the veteran player and some guy with a target on his back. The game is fun but it can be very unforgiving.

And Punkbuster DOES check for cheaters. This from Wikipedia: "PunkBuster is a computer program that is designed to detect software used for cheating in online games. It does this by scanning the memory contents of the local machine. A computer identified as using cheats may be banned from connecting to protected servers." It goes on to list specific types of hacks and cheats Punkbuster checks for and then bans.
If it was an experienced player they probably already know the maps by heart and know where the hiding spots are and where the bots usually go. Also something I sometimes do is stalk human players, I watch them from a distance for a bit and see their pattern in what theyre doing then creep up and kill them knowing exactly where they are and what their movements are going to be.
I never understood why PB free servers are so crowded all the time. I read about PB slowing the game etc but you have people that for example play on lowest settings to remove trees to see guys crawling in the woods and stuff like that. My game isn't affected on the highest PB level of security and I like to play without them cheaters although I must say that I don't encounter many. The game seems pure in comparison to CoD.

Originally posted by Yenooc:
why the Punkbuster and VAC systems can't seem to identify aimbot cheaters, etc.
VAC doesn't react directly, it's a system that doesn't shine a light how it's working. The cheater won't know what the cause of his ban was because a detection might be delayed in time.
When the software detects a cheat on a players system, it will ban them in the future, possibly days or weeks after the original detection.[3] It may kick players from the game if it detects errors in their systems memory or hardware. No information such as date of detection or type of cheat detected is disclosed to the player.
Yggdrasil Feb 14, 2013 @ 2:51pm 
You should add that these detection systems make mistakes. I have on occasion got a message of "Speed Hack," but I don't even know what it is. I hate the idea of cheating and don't even use cheat codes for single player games as it takes all the fun and skill out of them, but twice I was kicked from RO2 servers and I didn't even know the reason why.
Yoda Emperor Conor Feb 15, 2013 @ 10:15am 
Originally posted by rolfskalder:
I have on occasion got a message of "Speed Hack," but I don't even know what it is.
I get it alot of time, for example when I dive under a fallen tree but get almost stuck while doing so. It never kicked me although I get 4 messages of speed hack if it occurs. Hacking is for those who are born to lose and finally want to taste the feeling of getting something out of their miserable life.
wanted31 Feb 15, 2013 @ 10:36am 
What's a "speed hack" ?
Yoda Emperor Conor Feb 15, 2013 @ 12:08pm 
Originally posted by wanted31:
What's a "speed hack" ?
Increased movement/fire rate
wanted31 Feb 15, 2013 @ 10:39pm 
But how come i got this msg some times but i dont use any cheats ?
Danh Feb 15, 2013 @ 10:54pm 
Packet loss
Bannoura Feb 17, 2013 @ 2:38pm 
punkbuster and VAC do not detect all hacks, some hacks are undetectable.
TheMagicHobo76 Feb 17, 2013 @ 10:07pm 
Originally posted by corn holer:
There are no aimbots. The guy was just good at playing and you sucked. The weapons are very accurate in RO2 just like in real life. Practice and get better and stop crying
He wasn't crying, not even complaining. did you even read the rest of the comments?
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