Jarection 2013年5月17日下午7:01
Hey guys buy our game now; we'll release a free Pacific expansion later!
lol jk you gotta pay for it!
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Moskeeto 2013年5月17日下午7:03 
They never promised it would be free.

TWI said they had a mod team working on a Pacific mod.
If it was of decent quality, then they would release it as an official mod on Steam.
If it was of good quality, then they would take it in-house and work on it as an expansion.

Guess which one happened?
最后由 Moskeeto 编辑于; 2013年5月17日下午7:03
Jarection 2013年5月17日下午7:06 
引用自 RST Moskeeto
They never promised it would be free.

TWI said they had a mod team working on a Pacific mod.
If it was of decent quality, then they would release it as an official mod on Steam.
If it was of great quality, then they would take it in-house and work on it as an expansion.

Guess which one happened?
They must have started saying that later on, probably when development started to get good lol... Money > Morality
Pistolero 2013年5月17日下午7:29 
I'd have to know all of the titles in TWI's line, plus the sales figures to know how much revenue TWI generates annually; but if you sell 10,000 units of RS at $18 per unit that is a grand total of $180,000, which in business terms is peanuts. I have 21-yr old clients working as crabbers or working in the oil fields in North Dakota who make almost that much money. It is wrong not to get paid for what you are doing; not the converse.
Micket 2013年5月17日下午7:30 
引用自 Maximilian
引用自 RST Moskeeto
They never promised it would be free.

TWI said they had a mod team working on a Pacific mod.
If it was of decent quality, then they would release it as an official mod on Steam.
If it was of great quality, then they would take it in-house and work on it as an expansion.

Guess which one happened?
They must have started saying that later on, probably when development started to get good lol... Money > Morality
Someone wants to get paid for working? -gasp-
最后由 Micket 编辑于; 2013年5月17日下午7:32
Moskeeto 2013年5月17日下午7:36 
引用自 Maximilian
引用自 RST Moskeeto
They never promised it would be free.

TWI said they had a mod team working on a Pacific mod.
If it was of decent quality, then they would release it as an official mod on Steam.
If it was of great quality, then they would take it in-house and work on it as an expansion.

Guess which one happened?
They must have started saying that later on, probably when development started to get good lol... Money > Morality
No, you are incorrect. They said this from the very beginning.
Tovarisch Zhukov 2013年5月17日下午7:48 
引用自 Pistolero
I'd have to know all of the titles in TWI's line, plus the sales figures to know how much revenue TWI generates annually; but if you sell 10,000 units of RS at $18 per unit that is a grand total of $180,000, which in business terms is peanuts. I have 21-yr old clients working as crabbers or working in the oil fields in North Dakota who make almost that much money. It is wrong not to get paid for what you are doing; not the converse.

It is, however, wrong to be developing a mod before the game comes out, even have a page on ModDB for it as a marketing strategy. Honestly I couldn't care less about the Pacific theatre, however, there are some who would have seen the mod and bought the game expecting that eventually the mod will come out. Yes I realize that buying a game for a mod is stupid, but there are people who do it before mods are even released.
Jarection 2013年5月17日下午7:58 
I don't have a problem that you have to buy it, I think it's only fair if they are paid for their work. I don't really care that I don't get it for free; I just think it's stupid how they talked about a free mod and then make you pay for it. Stop taking me out of context. They just used Rising Storm as a dirt technique to entice people to buy Red Orchestra, that's the only thing that upsets me (and no, I didn't buy RO:HoS for RS). And about money, iirc they gave about $30,000 to the winners of the mapping contest; so for a small company I don't think they are doing too poorly in terms of cash.
Moskeeto 2013年5月17日下午8:03 
They are actually doing pretty well. RO2 has been their most profitable title on launch, Killing Floor still sells like hotcakes during sales along with its skins and weapon packs. They have grown quite a bit lately too, hiring a few devs that used to work for AAA studios. Rising Storm should make them just that much more profitable. I hope they grow enough to move onto Killing Floor 2 at some point.
Jarection 2013年5月17日下午8:06 
引用自 RST Moskeeto
They are actually doing pretty well. RO2 has been their most profitable title on launch, Killing Floor still sells like hotcakes during sales along with its skins and weapon packs. They have grown quite a bit lately too, hiring a few devs that used to work for AAA studios. Rising Storm should make them just that much more profitable. I hope they grow enough to move onto Killing Floor 2 at some point.

This is exactly why I think it was a ♥♥♥♥ move of them to do such a thing.
Joey Talldrod 2013年5月17日下午8:27 
Calm down, you dont need to pay for it to play it(however you'll have a few limitations).
Mexicutioner 2013年5月17日下午8:38 
引用自 ♥♥♥♥ kicker
Calm down, you dont need to pay for it to play it(however you'll have a few limitations).

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Moskeeto 2013年5月17日下午8:39 
引用自 Mexicutioner
引用自 ♥♥♥♥ kicker
Calm down, you dont need to pay for it to play it(however you'll have a few limitations).

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All RO2 owners get to play RS for free but only as rifleman.

EDIT:
Source: http://forums.tripwireinteractive.com/showpost.php?p=1214704&postcount=41
最后由 Moskeeto 编辑于; 2013年5月17日下午8:40
Praxius 2013年5月17日下午8:40 
Who buys a game for a mod?

Many people bought BF2 for Project Reality.

Many people bought UT2004 for ROCA

Half-Life???
Moskeeto 2013年5月17日下午8:42 
引用自 Cpt-Praxius
Who buys a game for a mod?

Many people bought BF2 for Project Reality.

Many people bought UT2004 for ROCA

Half-Life???
Many people bought Half-Life for Counter-Strike, which later becamse a retail game. I'm sure you know that though.
最后由 Moskeeto 编辑于; 2013年5月17日下午8:42
Mexicutioner 2013年5月17日下午8:46 
引用自 RST Moskeeto
引用自 Mexicutioner

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All RO2 owners get to play RS for free but only as rifleman.

EDIT:
Source: http://forums.tripwireinteractive.com/showpost.php?p=1214704&postcount=41

whatta crock of ♥♥♥♥t, I wouldnt of bought it then lol.
最后由 Mexicutioner 编辑于; 2013年5月17日下午8:46
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