Originally posted by Tig Ol Bitties:The slaying from behind drives the enemy crazy!
Originally posted by bragsdaleusaretired:how did rising storm kill the player base?
Originally posted by Supa Kawaii Dashie Roleplayer 69:Actually, you can. You just suck. In fact, I'm reminded of a little ditty from my Stalingrad days... Bridges, TWG campaign. The squad of Ivans I'd been anxiously watching for the last half minute stampeded past me, feet just mere inches away from my face, before promptly getting gunned down in the river, their blood turning the chill blue stream into a thick, stinking red swamp filled with the submerged screams of the dying.I took another long, cautious look around before slowly crawling out of the small patch of shrub I'd been hiding in, just barely tall enough to cover my head. And then I saw it; there, crested on a small hill a few feet away from me, the rusted monstrosity of war forged from metal and diesel roared, sending another shell falling into one of our hastily dug trenches.I still swear that I heard them scream for a split second, over the artillery, over the guns, over the sloshing of boots in mud, over the heroic battlecries of men fighting for their homes, before just another explosion in the Red Orchestra took them to their rest.I pushed onward. I had to. I crawled through bugs and dirt and corpses for what felt like miles, artillery from both sides showering me with dust and gravel. By the time I was close to the T-34, the shell casings of enemy machinegunners pelted my back like hail.Once I had finally reached the hill, tiny pebbles cutting into my hands and knees, the crew had conveniently stopped their barrage to reload. I ripped the pin on my antitank grenade out with my teeth, jumped onto my feet, and...Was promptly shot by a friendly, with the word "sorry" briefly passing by in the chat.We lost.I love this game.
Originally posted by Supa Kawaii Dashie Roleplayer 69:Originally posted by bragsdaleusaretired:how did rising storm kill the player base?The point of Red Orchestra has always been to show off the lesser known battles, specifically the Eastern Front, instead of latching onto the exact same cut and paste D-Day maps that littered every single WW2 shooter back in the day (see: Iwojima.) It's unique in that by far it's the only WW2 game to ever portray the sides fighting in Stalingrad as something other than a bunch of cowering teenagers being sent straight into machinegun fire and nothing but diehard nazis, and gives the footsoldiers on both the Axis and Allies the respect they deserve, hence the title.Say what you want about the bugs, the level ups, and the attachments, but RO2 kept that mood fairly well.And then Rising Storm comes in, flips over the table, pulls out its sniper and starts noscoping scrubs. The entire marketing campaign for this monstrosity (which was originally supposed to be a completely free mod with no official ties to Tripwire) was based around the exact kind of AMERICA LAND OF THE FREE AMERICA IS DOMINATE tripe you saw around the time Call of Duty jumped from a mediocre-ish WW2 FPS into the terrible, terrible abomination we all know and hate today, and that's why veterans both despise and are terrified of it. It sacrifices the amazing atmosphere that it had for the sake of making the player feel like an unstoppable machine of war, slaughtering foreign peoples in the name of FREEDOM by the hundreds (unless they're unlucky enough to end up on the terribly unbalanced, non-American side, but that's for another time and another place.)For a quick comparison, google "Red Orchestra kill montage". Now google the same for Rising Storm. You'll quickly notice that, even though they existed before, there weren't as many, and they didn't have the production values, attention, and praise they do now. I've seen a disturbing new trend with the debut of Rising Storm where people who didn't manage to snag a TL/SL role will find and threaten the TL for his automatic, and have the balls to TK him for it if he rightfully refuses, with the server unanimously being on the TKer's side. (The same goes for officers purely concerned about K/D instead of spawns, smoke, and arty.)I've ran into people who legitimately think this game is set during 'Nam.The frequency of newbies not only taking up valuable officer roles with little to no knowledge of the game, but also ♥♥♥♥♥ing out people for actually trying to help them, has increased tenfold.Machinegunners treat the role like they're Rambo with downs syndrome.Snipers don't know how to dial sights.People flip the ♥♥♥♥ out over somebody being sorry and taking all the blame for accidental TKs.All of this really doesn't really help the fact that In Country is on the way, and that Tripwire might make it official DLC while granting none of the quality control a mod turned priced product should have, ala Rising Storm.
Originally posted by Supa Kawaii Dashie Roleplayer 69:*cut for length*
Originally posted by Jordax142:The Pacific theater is really overlooked in Europe though. The only thing I got to hear about it in History classes, was Pearl Harbor and the Atomic bombs, with the European theater getting most of the attention. Even Stalingrad got more content in the books here than the battles in the Pacific. For Europeans, it is pretty interesting in finding out about the Pacific war.
Originally posted by #razoleg:Originally posted by Jordax142:The Pacific theater is really overlooked in Europe though. The only thing I got to hear about it in History classes, was Pearl Harbor and the Atomic bombs, with the European theater getting most of the attention. Even Stalingrad got more content in the books here than the battles in the Pacific. For Europeans, it is pretty interesting in finding out about the Pacific war.Was it cause most of the people born in the "home of the brave, land of the free" hid their asses until '44, or cause they could only fight bolt-action rifle-bearing Japanese with nuclear bombs? Or maybe it's because battle of Stalingrad decided the fate of the world, when the most courageous stood up for what was right and when even the "greatest" of Europe shivered in fear sheltered by sea or were helping the nazis? Though I respect the US for fighting over three Islands they only needed to further their military involvement in Asia for years to come, the whole Pacific theatre comes nowehere even close to a simple battle over a small town in Eastern front.Let's be realistic here.