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Daisuke Ookami - 大助狼 20 юни в 3:32сут.
Game balance - F**** Flamethrower.
Seriously, something needs to be done.
Stats shows 1.6% people finishing the US campaign, against 0.6% as Japanese. from all the campaign i've played (surely around 20 or 30 - one was won by the Japanese).

I'm really fed up with Kamikaze flamethrower. They rush and flame, careless for their life. A flame thrower is 30kg loaded. They should not be able to hit and run like that. The gameplay is more "flame ninja" than "hey let's unlock a situation". The mortar isn't half as usefull as the flame. People don't care about burning Friends or For. They burn.
Quake III is more realistic with that point. It could be a fantastic addition to gameplay if it was done properly. Also - flamethrower don't care about their own fire. I doubt this is realistic too. They should be able to kill themselve if they use flamethrower carelessly - like against a wall.




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jernhue 20 юни в 3:43сут. 
deamthey change it in some weeks... played it and all was they will they owns and try to it there it was or need to to flush out the ♥♥♥♥ so we culd atack more land.............
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Nathaniel Flint 21 юни в 5:06сут. 
So they STILL didnt change it?

You can STILL spam fire in the urban jungle of Guadal-Canal?

Sweet memories... Now i know again why every single one of the 60€ i payed feels like a stab in the heart...


But let me ask you: Are americans already able to use this:
https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fat_Man#mediaviewer/Datei:Fat_man.jpg

Srs TWI, that would be SO MUCH easier.
Daisuke Ookami - 大助狼 21 юни в 8:39сут. 
No, they didn't. :/
[Volk]SpixTalon 21 юни в 3:11след. 
Oh man...let me be the first to answer you before Mosketoo, Zyfer or RYC5A(did I get that right? :D ) get in. I could elaborate on my thoughts right now which range from "Oh for ♥♥♥♥S sake! not this crap again..." to "man, Germany almost lost to Ghana...I want to sleep".
But it all comes down to this:
Stop your whining and kill the ♥♥♥♥ing flamer with your bayonet like you're supposed to.
Also, stop spreading false information: flamers can kill themselves with their own flames...
Nathaniel Flint 21 юни в 4:23след. 
Първоначално публикувано от =BSG9=SpixTalon:
Stop your whining and kill the ♥♥♥♥ing flamer with your bayonet like you're supposed to.

Would write "0/10 Insanely bad troll attempt" but considering this is the RO2 forum i really cannot.


Fabulous Rainbow Korgdeth 21 юни в 11:15след. 
Welp, that's a ♥♥♥♥ing FLAMEthrower after all.
Mikko 22 юни в 3:45сут. 
At least I have killed myself using my own flamer...
Daisuke Ookami - 大助狼 22 юни в 6:14сут. 
Really ? Didn't played so much flamethrower, but i've seen things that would have obviously killed the flamethrower, and did not. (saying this as a former firefighter - i know a little bit about fire).
Crystal 22 юни в 8:30сут. 
The fact however is that this gameplay feature was made as a weapon for people who cant aim.And flamer in defence on any maps except hanto and canal(maybe) is such a noncense. Maybe the goal was to attract people from USA to buy the game and with that way to have more sells.
P.S
I like have some fun with flamer but i cant deny obvious facts that even team fortress got better flamer then Rising Storm.
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Zyfer [NEOPS] 22 юни в 8:48сут. 
Първоначално публикувано от Nathaniel Flint:
Първоначално публикувано от =BSG9=SpixTalon:
Stop your whining and kill the ♥♥♥♥ing flamer with your bayonet like you're supposed to.

Would write "0/10 Insanely bad troll attempt" but considering this is the RO2 forum i really cannot.

i'm glad you wasted your money and i'm glad you wont return, people like you who cant adapt and just wont, just dont deserve a place here with the highest rankings of humanity, so please do begone beggar and also, its funny how you dont understand insanity, maybe its because you are yourself, insane<-which is true and you cant deny it.

Flamer is ♥♥♥♥ and should be buffed, same with bar, dunno y dat isnt happening trip, especially the bar one???

But yeah, as a ♥♥♥ the flamer was the least of my worries, you simply just right click, move mouse up towards flamers body, left click, the end.

But alas, the masses of cry will always find a way to find something to cry about in a different way, its not insanity ♥♥♥♥♥ but its down that road anyway, doing the same ♥♥♥♥, expecting a different result -.-
Faulnis 22 юни в 10:23сут. 
Първоначално публикувано от Crystal:
The fact however is that this gameplay feature was made as a weapon for people who cant aim.And flamer in defence on any maps except hanto and canal(maybe) is such a noncense. Maybe the goal was to attract people from USA to buy the game and with that way to have more sells.
P.S
I like have some fun with flamer but i cant deny obvious facts that even team fortress got better flamer then Rising Storm.

No, it really doesnt. It seems you guys don't understand that whilst RO2 is a multiplayer game, they still go for accuracy. America used flamethrowers for the duration of World War 2, they were devastating anti-infantry weapons and perfect weapons to use to clear our trenches, bunkers, and jungles.

You guys* all seem to expect people to be able to survive being ENGULFED ENTIRELY IN FLAMES AND STILL BE ABLE TO FIGHT.



"In the Pacific theatre, the US Marines used the backpack-type M2A1-7 flamethrower and M2-2 flamethrowers, finding them especially useful in clearing Japanese trench and bunker complexes. In cases where the Japanese were installed in deep caves, the flames often consumed the available oxygen, suffocating the occupants. The Marines still used their infantry-portable systems despite the arrival of adapted Sherman tanks with the Ronson system (cf. flame tank).

The U.S. Army used flamethrowers in Europe in much smaller numbers, though they were available for special employments. Flamethrowers were deployed during the Normandy landings in order to clear Axis fortifications.[23][24] Most boat teams on Omaha Beach included a two-man flamethrower team.[25]"

And you CAN kill yourself with the flamethrower, It's actually a VERY common accident.

edited because OP made a good point on my being rude about this.
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General Sherman 22 юни в 10:30сут. 
Yeah, flamethrower is not a blowetorch, it is a napalm hose. Imgaine sticky burning goo that binds to your flesh as it sears and burns you.

This is not an e-sports or arcade shooter, it is a realism based shooter. The weapons in-game are designed to replicate what the weapons in real life were capable of. Making a perfect 1 to 1 balance between the sides is completly counter to the point of the game.

That said, dont play RS on campagin mode. The maps are all designed with the peculiar weaknesses and strengths of the two sides in mind and are therefore assymmetrical. If you want to play campaign mode, do so on HoS.
[Volk]SpixTalon 22 юни в 11:31сут. 
Първоначално публикувано от IG General Sherman:
That said, dont play RS on campagin mode. The maps are all designed with the peculiar weaknesses and strengths of the two sides in mind and are therefore assymmetrical. If you want to play campaign mode, do so on HoS.
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Daisuke Ookami - 大助狼 22 юни в 2:44след. 
"The weapons in-game are designed to replicate what the weapons in real life were capable of."

Well. There is my complain. We haven't realistic gameplay - we have ninja that run with 30kg gear in their back, climb iwojima like they were f*** ninja. And eventually - they don't care about dying since they is respawn. So we end up with kamikaze gameplay as US side, and tactical gameplay with japanese side.

I carried firefighting gear - which is like a little less heavy. You simply do not run. Period.

And oh - to begin with.... one shot one kill games ain't that realistic - accuracy is way too much with most rifle. A Garand or an Arikasa is no damn 1kg airsoft gun - you don't hop out of cover in 0.5s and make a perfect 100m headshot in reality


Daisuke Ookami - 大助狼 22 юни в 2:51след. 
Oh by the way - placing idiot in an argument is just discrediting you. If you were a little more grown, you would be able to make your point and convince people without going such way. Usually the more BS people say, the less they know.
I expose my opinion, you do so, we try each other other to justify our point. Why can't this stay polite between player ??
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