MrMuffinz Jun 13, 2014 @ 10:25pm
Is Rising Storm really worth it?
I've had Red Orchestra 2 for a long time and really love it as of late, but is it really even worth it just to comfortably play with an advertisement and be able to sometimes use more guns (when I can already use the Rifle class and access all the maps)?

Is that really the only Pro to buying it?
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Moskeeto Jun 13, 2014 @ 10:34pm 
I think so, yes. However, the Steam Summer sale is coming up very soon and I can guarantee RS will go down to 5 bucks then.
The Borg Jun 13, 2014 @ 11:31pm 
No, it's not. The Rising Storm maps and weapons are unbalanced and you'll often have the american team winning without much resistance from the jap players. Stick with the eastern front, you'll have more fun.
Emton Jun 14, 2014 @ 3:33am 
Originally posted by The Borg ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡° ):
No, it's not. The Rising Storm maps and weapons are unbalanced and you'll often have the american team winning without much resistance from the jap players. Stick with the eastern front, you'll have more fun.

Uh no before the last patch or 2 Japanese would win 90% of the time. Now they've got it blanced it pretty good.
FBlue Jun 14, 2014 @ 5:29am 
Originally posted by The Borg ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡° ):
No, it's not. The Rising Storm maps and weapons are unbalanced and you'll often have the american team winning without much resistance from the jap players. Stick with the eastern front, you'll have more fun.

Weapons are not balanced, but both sides have stuff the other doesn't like flame thrower and knee mortar. And in some cases the Japanese weapons are better. I prefer either Japanese bolt action over the American version. Some maps favor Japanese and some favor the Americans. But they are still pretty winnable by the other side. Thankfully all the maps are not as unbalanced as Betio.

But really what side wins depends on different things. Most important being team stack. Then there is communication. If your team is not doing that well and the other team is, you can be in trouble. Next is having the right people in the right positions. A good TL might put you over the top. A really bad one is sure to doom you to failure. The more competent sl's you have, the better. But if you got a bunch of noobs as sl or guys that took the spot for the weapon, you are going to struggle. A really good LMG player can help you win games. But on the other hand I have seen guys put up great numbers at that spot and lose. Same can be said of any of the other non-riflemen spots. But good riflemen can be very valuable to your team. Some can be good at capping others could be really good shots. At the end of a game a really good rifleman could easily be top 5 on your team in points.
kiin93 Jun 14, 2014 @ 7:10am 
Originally posted by FBlue:
Originally posted by The Borg ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡° ):
No, it's not. The Rising Storm maps and weapons are unbalanced and you'll often have the american team winning without much resistance from the jap players. Stick with the eastern front, you'll have more fun.

Weapons are not balanced, but both sides have stuff the other doesn't like flame thrower and knee mortar. And in some cases the Japanese weapons are better. I prefer either Japanese bolt action over the American version. Some maps favor Japanese and some favor the Americans. But they are still pretty winnable by the other side. Thankfully all the maps are not as unbalanced as Betio.

But really what side wins depends on different things. Most important being team stack. Then there is communication. If your team is not doing that well and the other team is, you can be in trouble. Next is having the right people in the right positions. A good TL might put you over the top. A really bad one is sure to doom you to failure. The more competent sl's you have, the better. But if you got a bunch of noobs as sl or guys that took the spot for the weapon, you are going to struggle. A really good LMG player can help you win games. But on the other hand I have seen guys put up great numbers at that spot and lose. Same can be said of any of the other non-riflemen spots. But good riflemen can be very valuable to your team. Some can be good at capping others could be really good shots. At the end of a game a really good rifleman could easily be top 5 on your team in points.

Well said, ps the japs have the banzi charge which I have seen some fellows soak up bullets and still banzi you.
JustinRPG Jun 14, 2014 @ 10:27am 
Rising Storm is one of the most unbalanced POSs ever made by a human, so no.
Dr.Larry Jun 14, 2014 @ 1:13pm 
It's good. I didn't really think there was much balancing issues save for RS in realism mode. US flamers were just OP as ♥♥♥♥. A single lick from a flamer across the map(Without it touching you or having time to react) was an instant kill, requiring no skill or aim with it. Just rush and spam it and they got free kills easily. Having said that I haven't played RS in a while but that's what I remember most of it being ♥♥♥♥♥♥... That an Iwo Jimo. Sick to ♥♥♥♥ of that map. It's spammed 24/7 but that's not a real issue with the game itself as you'll be stuck with that piece of ♥♥♥♥ map regardless of you having RS or not.

The game is good, some of the maps are decent and I fully support what they did for the community by opening the game up for everyone regardless of which version you have. For that alone I would support them and buy the expansion.
MrMuffinz Jun 14, 2014 @ 2:54pm 
Alright, i'll just stick to RO2's servers.
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inb4 they close down RO2 support
General Sherman Jun 14, 2014 @ 6:50pm 
Rising storm maps are more cqb than HoS. The knee mortar is a really fun weapon to use, and one of the Japanese lmgs gets a scope attachment if you get it to 50. There's also the banzai charge ability.

Then you've got weapons like the trench gun, BAR, and thompson to level for the Americans with unlocks that are a lot of fun. BAR can be a CQB assault weapon, or a fire suppport weapon depending on which upgrade you get. Same goes for the thompson. Then there's the trench gun, its a shotgun that can get a bayonet attached to it, nuff said.

As for balance, the Japanese team usually has a greater challenge, but more opportunities for skilled players/teams. Americans are more n00b friendly, but expert users of the knee mortar are more the most devasting force in all of Red Orchestra.

I'd say its worth buying it.
Raquel Jun 15, 2014 @ 3:19am 
RS > RO2.
Baby Blue Jun 15, 2014 @ 3:38am 
When i came to red orchestra2 rising storm was already out and i started the series with that expansion in mind. I personally love rising storm more than red orchestra 2. I wont bore with all the tech reasons which were explained above. Both games have their pros and cons. But the winning formula for both games is the same. Good team communication and coordination. Thats the key factor. If u simulate that then both games are equally good. After that it goes down to taste and personal feels. For me its rising storm cause i love to play japanese ^^
SCUM Jun 15, 2014 @ 3:56am 
Originally posted by Moskeeto:
I think so, yes. However, the Steam Summer sale is coming up very soon and I can guarantee RS will go down to 5 bucks then.

This is the best option. RS is interesting, but the asymmetrical play does throw some people. Japanese are powerfull as hell, but require a bit more skill to get that power.
Mormacil Jun 15, 2014 @ 7:47am 
Originally posted by SCUM:
Originally posted by Moskeeto:
I think so, yes. However, the Steam Summer sale is coming up very soon and I can guarantee RS will go down to 5 bucks then.

This is the best option. RS is interesting, but the asymmetrical play does throw some people. Japanese are powerfull as hell, but require a bit more skill to get that power.
This, it's not just more RO2, it's a different thing. A thing I personally prefer over RO2.
The First Cuck Is the Deepest Jun 15, 2014 @ 8:30am 
People who argue it's balanced are lying to themselves. The Americans get the BAR, flamethrower, Trench Gun and Thompson, all massively overpowered compared to the Japanese counterparts and made even worse by the fact that the BAR becomes laser accurate at level 25 and the Thompson also gets laser accuracy and a drum mag.
Mormacil Jun 15, 2014 @ 8:36am 
No we're not. The flamethrower is countered by anyone with a brain and mostly with the mortar. That mortar can slaughter even the best flamer. Japan is balanced for defensive matches, the difference is that noobish unskillfull play is punished harder on the Japanese then the US side. That you can call unbalanced but overal it's balanced. The japanese SMG is btw just as good as the thompson, the bayonet is great and it's RoF great as well. The trenchgun, yeah that's a bit overpowered compared to the rest of the guns but not massively and it's rare. Regular troops won't field it.
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