Fenriic Jun 5, 2014 @ 4:18am
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Hi, I realize hackers are problems in games and I dont like them like any other person. I have a vac ban on my account for exploiting a bug in rust and selling it to people in-game for items. Now I know this can be seen as hacking, but no third party software was installed, nor did i gain "super powers", I just gained a lot of resources and was able to build quickly. Everyone else soon caught up to me and no harm no foul. But after the amount of time I have put into these games (RS, RO and RO2) And now I cant play them as I cannot get into a single game because of this vac ban is just completly unfair. Please fix this, I can I have a refund for the games that I have purchased? I didnt do anything wrong in any of your products so why should you guys "punish" me? Please fix this as I really enjoy this game.

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Proteus Jun 5, 2014 @ 4:37am 
Well, you gained an unfair advantage with regards to other players in game ... so it definitely should be considered as cheating (which is what VAC bans are about) ... no matter whether you were able to use the advantage to win the game or not.
You even sold the cheat to other players.
Maybe you should have thought about the consequences beforehand before you had done it

Considering what you wrote:
I just gained a lot of resources and was able to build quickly. Everyone else soon caught up to me and no harm no foul.

you are exactly the type of person the newly VAC ban feature is aimed at (i.e. caught cheaters who don´t consider their actions as cheating/worth of a VAC ban).

With the same reasoning you use cheaters in RO2 could argue:
"But, the Artillery hack didn´t give us superpowers ... it just increased and prolonged artillery strikes for our side in game. The other side caught up however, by avoiding the area affected ... so, no harm, no foul"
Last edited by Proteus; Jun 5, 2014 @ 4:38am
Fenriic Jun 5, 2014 @ 4:53am 
Ok, I see your a fanboy of this vac ban ♥♥♥♥ so... A: was not aware of an arty hack B: Its not the same, killing a heap of people boosts your score, levels you up and overall wins the game..........gathering resources in rust does not, it still takes a long time to build stuff......no real bonus for it, just to lazy to spend hours everyday to gather resources. So NO, not the same!! If you came across a tree in a game that teleported you into a valley full of resources that you could loot then run back through a tree and be teleported back to the original tree near your base, would you not use it? Is that really worthy of a vac ban? Is telling other players about it worthy of it? Is making something out of it worthy of it? I think not. Its this kind of thinking that ♥♥♥♥s up games, not people using bugs and glitches. Everyone knows about them, everyone uses them. Its not hacking. I do hate hackers, aimbot ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥s and all of those other general hacks people use. But finding a glitch in software and exploiting it is hardly the gamers fault, and to vac ban people based on this is just ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥. The devs shouldn't ban people for their ♥♥♥♥ups.!
Manfred Cornburg Jun 5, 2014 @ 4:53am 
What about those of us with bans from a game that we played 4 years ago?
My VAC ban says 993 days, which I know for a fact is added retroactively since I played MW2 in 09-10. That is the only multiplayer game I've ever used hacks in. I definitely should be banned from playing that multiplayer again, but being banned from RO2 for hacking in a game before RO2 was released is something I'd dare claim unfair.

Valve's own page on VAC even specifically states that VAC bans in non-Valve games will not influence other non-Valve games https://support.steampowered.com/kb_article.php?ref=7849-RADZ-6869&l=english

I guess it's time to read up on that whole EU vs Steam on refunds thing, which really sucks since the 58+ hours I've spent on RO2/RS were really fun
Szmix Jun 5, 2014 @ 5:04am 
Always forgive, never forget
FoxR Jun 5, 2014 @ 2:37pm 
♥♥♥♥ the cheaters.
Critical Tony Jun 5, 2014 @ 2:39pm 
You have an 87 day old vac ban.

Say no more.
Moskeeto Jun 5, 2014 @ 2:41pm 
Originally posted by Critical Tony:
You have an 87 day old vac ban.

Say no more.
Last edited by Moskeeto; Jun 5, 2014 @ 2:41pm
Grizzledorf Jun 5, 2014 @ 3:33pm 
Originally posted by Critical Tony:
You have an 87 day old vac ban.

Say no more.

i agree. i have much sympathy for people with old vac bans especially when they own up to what they did.

this guy has fresh vac ban and has the mentality like what he did was no big deal.

also on side note pretty sure he is ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ting. doesnt vac just detect if your injecting something into game to hack? its not gonna ban for an in game glitch(would be manually banned from servers i would assume if server admin caught and chose to punish)

so ya working as intended in this situation. for those guys with older vac bans just ride it out till the forgive vac ban after X amount of time gets implemented. im sure most server admins will set to forgive after 1 or 2 years old(in which case this ♥♥♥ hat is still screwd for a bit :P)
General Sherman Jun 5, 2014 @ 7:10pm 
Originally posted by Demigod Grizzledorf of Crom:
also on side note pretty sure he is ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ting. doesnt vac just detect if your injecting something into game to hack? its not gonna ban for an in game glitch(would be manually banned from servers i would assume if server admin caught and chose to punish)

Its funny when chewaters try to curry sypmathy this way. The idea that you can be VAC banned for a simple in-game exploit is funny. This cheater is relying on other people's ignorance to try and troll other users/gain sympathy.

Your VAC ban isn't an accident. You didn't get it just for "exploiting". You hakced/cheated and got caught.
R5CYA Jun 5, 2014 @ 7:54pm 
Originally posted by Moskeeto:
Originally posted by Critical Tony:
You have an 87 day old vac ban.

Say no more.
nuff said.
Fenriic Jun 5, 2014 @ 8:24pm 
It's true, I have a vac ban, but being punished in a game that had nothing to do with it is completely unfair!!
76 Jun 5, 2014 @ 8:36pm 
Originally posted by Vali:
It's true, I have a vac ban, but being punished in a game that had nothing to do with it is completely unfair!!

You lose your drivers license for drink driving, but you somehow think that only applies to the road you were driving on at the time you where caught!???!
I'm here to remind you that it applies to ALL roads and thats as it should be... you cheaters are lucky a VAC ban doesn't apply to every game in your libary and hopefully one day it will.

grow up.
Last edited by 76; Jun 5, 2014 @ 8:37pm
Fenriic Jun 5, 2014 @ 8:41pm 
pffft can you hear yourself...........? Gaming vs real life.............Dude, get out more.
76 Jun 5, 2014 @ 8:48pm 
Originally posted by Vali:
pffft can you hear yourself...........? Gaming vs real life.............Dude, get out more.

Says the dude that cheats in GAMES!........ lol @ you

edit: suck it up princess :)
Last edited by 76; Jun 5, 2014 @ 8:50pm
zero Jun 5, 2014 @ 10:28pm 
Originally posted by Vali:
pffft can you hear yourself...........? Gaming vs real life.............Dude, get out more.

You are a dumbass. That is all.
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