DERPMASTERS Jul 11, 2014 @ 7:00am
Trying to like this game.
So I and a buddy of mine are trying to like this game, but this is becoming harder and harder to do. Spending half the game in the spawn screen, not being able to see muzzle flashes/tracers is making this literally impossible for us, coupled by never EVER knowing where we get shot from either.

We move "tactically" and end up getting tactically ♥♥♥♥ing shot. Both of us have played other FPS games before and play Arma games (we know not to run around like dip♥♥♥♥♥).

There something we're both doing wrong here?
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- Stich - Jul 11, 2014 @ 7:13am 
Well, if you're both new to the game, then you obviously don't know the maps.

Knowing the maps and where the enemy will usually be is a huge advantage. Until you figure out the maps, get used to getting pwned on a regular basis.
=(e)= Lemonater47 Jul 11, 2014 @ 7:17am 
Watch others get pwned first. You can quite often gauge where the enemy is from that.

Also its a good idea to follow high ranking players around. They know what they are doing. They they sometimes seem to go on suicidal missions and succeed. Usually resulting in all who follow getting killed anyway.
Lieutenant Spassiba Jul 11, 2014 @ 9:53am 
Never enter a room or cross a street first, let someone else take the bullet for you!

And yes, follow the seasonned players, they usualy know what they do (as said), but you can also turn to be a decisive plus for them when it comes to explote an advantage.

'cause, this is definitly not the kind of game you can win all by yourself, even if you're a über 7331 warrior!
[Volk]SpixTalon Jul 11, 2014 @ 10:12am 
Originally posted by DRPMSTRS:
So I and a buddy of mine are trying to like this game, but this is becoming harder and harder to do. Spending half the game in the spawn screen, not being able to see muzzle flashes/tracers is making this literally impossible for us, coupled by never EVER knowing where we get shot from either.

We move "tactically" and end up getting tactically ♥♥♥♥ing shot. Both of us have played other FPS games before and play Arma games (we know not to run around like dip♥♥♥♥♥).

There something we're both doing wrong here?
Gotta be honest here...after my first 2 hours gameplay I was so utterley filled with hatred for this game I uninstalled it. A month later I tried it again and 10h later I had fun. Now 600h later it is my favorite game. Just hang in there. It's totally worth it. :)
Proteus Jul 11, 2014 @ 10:14am 
Originally posted by - Stich -:
Well, if you're both new to the game, then you obviously don't know the maps.

Knowing the maps and where the enemy will usually be is a huge advantage. Until you figure out the maps, get used to getting pwned on a regular basis.

This ...
actually it is two things:
On the one hand, the knowledge of positions which are likely to get chosen by the enemy.

On the other hand it also is seeing an enemy going to behind a cover (or sticking his head out from it).
If I see an enemy going behind a cover (or sticking its head out of cover and then back into cover) I suspect that, within short time, he will stick his head out again from this cover (or try to get from this cover to another one).
Therefore I will keep this spot in surveillance and am ready to quickly shoot him, the next time he appears from cover.

Such an enemy (especially if he didn´t see me when going into cover or sticking his head out) will be very surprised that he got shot (and may not know from where he was shot)
Schindler's Fist Jul 11, 2014 @ 11:09am 
Originally posted by DRPMSTRS:
There something we're both doing wrong here?
Any time you're in the open, your chances of getting shot skyrocket. Stay in buildings, stay low, don't stick your head up, and don't open fire on someone you have incredibly low chances of hitting as it will give away your position (that mostly goes for automatic weapons). Don't use the cover system, try to lean around cover and only expose the smallest amount of yourself you possibly can. Never follow the bots. If you see people near you getting shot, dive to prone. Don't stick your head out the windows, if you're going to look out of one, your best bet is from farther back in the room. If you see an Mkb laying around, pick it up. Follow teammates who look like they know what they're doing. Learn the maps. If you think you're safe, you're still probably not so stay in cover.

That's about it from the top of my head.
IncubusDragon Jul 11, 2014 @ 12:10pm 
Also listen to the sounds in game, which ear are you hearing shots in the loudest etc
Nequis Jul 11, 2014 @ 12:25pm 
Also a tip that i don't know how others don't have it clear,if there are 2-3 dead teammates laying around DON'T pass in the same zone/window/ecc.
norcalscot Jul 11, 2014 @ 12:58pm 
Map knowledge and situational awareness are key.

As you become familiar with a map you will learn the kill zones, and be able to predict where the enemy are most likely to be or come from.

The first few hours of playing a new map is usually painful for everyone. Getting your bearings, finding the 'safe' paths between objectives, all takes time. Some maps are harder to visualize and understand than others.

Situational awareness is a tricky thing to master - you have to combine what your senses are telling you, along with your knowledge of how your team mates and the enemy are moving on the map. It's easy to become target fixated in RO2, and to forget to scan around you regularly to see how things are changing.

Sounds in RO2 can also tell you a lot - I'm still amazed at how many enemies I find using sound alone. For example, when the majority of the enemy is in front of you and you hear a weapon fire at you from an unexpected place it can be a give away that the enemy is trying to flank you.

It sounds as though you should already have situational awareness from the other FPSes you've played, so it probably comes down to mainly map knowledge. Be patient, die a lot, and observe where you are dying, where you are being shot from, and figure out the best ways to reach your objectives, or defend your current objectives...

With time things will improve - you will live longer, get more kills, and enjoy the game more!


Noob Van Noob Jul 11, 2014 @ 10:35pm 
Originally posted by DRPMSTRS:
So I and a buddy of mine are trying to like this game, but this is becoming harder and harder to do. Spending half the game in the spawn screen, not being able to see muzzle flashes/tracers is making this literally impossible for us, coupled by never EVER knowing where we get shot from either.

We move "tactically" and end up getting tactically ♥♥♥♥ing shot. Both of us have played other FPS games before and play Arma games (we know not to run around like dip♥♥♥♥♥).

There something we're both doing wrong here?
it happens. i bought this game, decided i died too much even when trying to play tactical and what not, and gave up. eventually slogged through several hours of it and found myself immensely enjoying it.
i think the best way to learn is just to play and get a good feel for the game
EDIT: oh, and dont use the active cover system, you're easily seen and is hard to control how much you expose yourself. there ARE times when its helpful, but more often then not it can get you killed.
EDIT 2: if you find yourself needing to clear a building in Rising Storm as Japanese, FREAKING BANZAI CHARGE, enemies around the corner in your building, just charge out and even if they hit you, you usually wont die (unless headshot(rare) or flamer). you'll at least take one with you usually, if not 2 or 3.
Last edited by Noob Van Noob; Jul 11, 2014 @ 10:39pm
=(e)= Lemonater47 Jul 11, 2014 @ 10:52pm 
I like the new players who see someone get shot looking out a window then they go stand in front of the same damn window.

Whack a mole.
Meadows Jul 11, 2014 @ 11:41pm 
How I learned? I looked around. Saw a guy with an EXTREEMLY high rank. An said.. Im followin that guy. an then started learning from watching the veterans movements. My advice.. slow down :D
Last edited by Meadows; Jul 11, 2014 @ 11:41pm
Dexter Jul 12, 2014 @ 12:00am 
For the new players to RO2:
1.The game actually requires some markmanship, so practice hitting targets and using your sight picture. The more you run, the more fatigued you become, and the more inaccurate your fire until your red bar disappears. In game, if not sure of the distance, shoot a wall or tree near where the enemey is likely to appear. check the mark on the tree/wall to see if you need to adjust your aim point. Listen to the game bot for keys to the effectiveness of your fire such as "cease firing, he is a friendly, or dont get up Rusk... etc give you feedback on a lot of situations.
2. Play like you have only one life to lose. So use all means of cover and concealment to move from position to position. Don't run over the top of ridges, or hills, use the low ground path instead. You can low crawl in this game for a reason: smaller target, and use grasses and smalll depressions to move from position to position. I spend a lot of time prone, crawling into a fring position. I rarely use windows. Dont run in a straight line, and keep your running bursts short. Go prone or into cover within 4 seconds before the enemy gets a bead on you.
3. Remember what the players above have said, particularly situational awareness. If your life depended on it, you wouldn't run out into the street unless you had a good idea it is safe. So using other plays as decoys or as Mine "Canaries"" is good idea. Listen to the sounds of all gun fire. Learn the difference between the sounds of our weapons and theirs. (realize, that most advanced players have enemy weapons at higher levels). Use your map for friendly positions frequently. Whenever recon is overhead, use the map to id local enemy locations.
4. Use your left alt button (whichever button is assigned to spot enemy) to let others know enemy locations that you can see or saw run into cover. Use text chat with your sqd leader (I) or the team (U) to communicate information, request help or support that can't be done using the V key system.
5. Don't be a squad leader or team leader without playing a lot first. Maybe 75 hours? Practice on empty servers with bots to get used to using the keys, and learn the maps.
6. If you run by a better weapon than yours, pick it up. If you see a grenade on the ground, pick it up, it might come in handy.
7. While playing, take a moment and evaluate what you are doing well and what you arn't. What was I doing when I died? What range was the enemy? What sounds did I hear that might have helped me? Focus on a few maps at first to master the terrain if you want to improve your scores sooner then later. So stay off the campaign maps for a while.
8. Again, don't use windows, check your map often, confirm friendly locations first before fring in smoke or throwing a nade in confusing situations.
9. When you TK someone, apologize, and eval why you killed a friendly. Then don't do it again. I can't tell you how frustrating it is to be TKed in a sweet spot by a careless player.
10. There are many player guides to read so read them first, and then again after playing for awhile. This is not an easy game but is a blast to play once you become more adept/skilled at killing the enemy. Good luck.
Last edited by Dexter; Jul 12, 2014 @ 12:06am
Rum Jul 12, 2014 @ 6:00am 
To do well it is a mixture of knowing the maps, and knowing the best ways to not get shot on said map. If you know the map layout, it becomes infinitely easier to guess where you got killed from.
=(e)= Lemonater47 Jul 12, 2014 @ 6:22am 
Always listen to what the characters themselves say. They will often says tuff when you do things. If you are shooting at the enemy they will often taunt or say they have the enemy pinned. If you hit the enemy he will say something regarding killing/wounding your target. If you shoot at a friendly a character near you or your own character will say hold your fire its a friendly.

One idiot today started shooting at a team mate. Defending team on gumrak station defending C we had just fallen back. There's 4 if us all next to each other overlooking the approach. All 4 of us see a dude stand up out of the bushes in the distance. He's looking away from us to where the Germans are. We all turn to look and aim out weapons but realise he's a team mate. Except one idiot with an SVT. Starts firing at him. Hits him once and he survives. One of the characters tells him its a Friendly. The guy reloads his rifle and by that time the friendly he was shooting at had bandaged himself. He got shot again and survived it and again one of our characters yelled out hold your fire. The dude who was getting shot started firing back but he had a PPSH at almost 100m firing at us in cover. It was useless and made it even more obvious that he was on our side. So the machine gunner who was there pulled out his pistol and shot this idiot in the head. And he started raging at us. We asked if he had sound and he said yes. We all heard our characters yell at him to stop firing. He would of too. Lucky he was a bad shot and the bullets didn't kill the poor team mate out on the front.

Don't be that stupid.
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