Rising Storm/Red Orchestra 2 Multiplayer

Rising Storm/Red Orchestra 2 Multiplayer

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GlobalEagle Jul 9, 2014 @ 9:03am
Germans get MG42... LOL?
So as if we didnt have enough German noobs hip spamming MG34 - because you know, it's pretty good at that - now we have the MG42 thrown in. Great. Why no Russian weapons Tripwire?

Also, grinding to 80 honor for German guns is super fun.
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Proteus Jul 9, 2014 @ 9:36am 
I rarely see a german hipfiring his MG.

Also, the big drawback of the MG-42 should also be known ... i.e. the rapid use of Ammunition. If the size and amount of magazines for the MG-42 is the same as with the MG-34, any noob who spams fire with his MG-42 will spend more time running between ammo dumps and front, than being at the front and raining death on the russians.

So, if you regularly play as a russian, you should be glad about us germans getting the MG-42, as any noobs among our MG gunners will be less effective in combat than before

;)
Julius Jul 9, 2014 @ 9:58am 
what about the pps-42? thats a new weapon for the russians.and dont tell me about mg34 noobs,i could say just look at all the ppsh-noobs
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Artaxeus Jul 9, 2014 @ 10:33am 
Originally posted by Julius:
what about the pps-42? theats a new weapon for the russians.and dont tell me about mg34 noobs,i could say just look at all the ppsh-noobs
+1
Nequis Jul 9, 2014 @ 10:45am 
Originally posted by Julius:
what about the pps-42? theats a new weapon for the russians.and dont tell me about mg34 noobs,i could say just look at all the ppsh-noobs
+10
GlobalEagle Jul 9, 2014 @ 10:52am 
PPSH is nowhere near as bad as kids spraying mg34. Also, I didn't know PPSH was a new weapon, only started playing recently after the sale.
Artaxeus Jul 9, 2014 @ 11:13am 
Originally posted by 2142General:
PPSH is nowhere near as bad as kids spraying mg34. Also, I didn't know PPSH was a new weapon, only started playing recently after the sale.
Some tips against mg34 "noobs", dont run towards them, prone and take them down from a distance (hip fire has terrible recoil), if youre indoors, then dont rush just wait the right moment when hes reloading you can take that as an advantage to flee or to attack or you can pull the pin of your grenade and count till 5 seconds and throw it on his face...
Moskeeto Jul 9, 2014 @ 11:13am 
Originally posted by 2142General:
PPSH is nowhere near as bad as kids spraying mg34. Also, I didn't know PPSH was a new weapon, only started playing recently after the sale.
Not the PPSh. The PPS-42.
- Stich - Jul 9, 2014 @ 11:42am 
Light machine guns were commonly 'hipfired' by all mg'ers on all sides of the conflict in WW2.

I've watched hundreds if not thousands of hours of combat footage from WW2 and I've seen light machine guns hipfired quite a bit actually. All sides trained extensively with many different firing positions as the situation applied under combat conditions. I've even seen em modified with various sling mechanisms by the soldiers in the field to be able to have it suspended and just traverse it left and right.

Heck, the Germans were trained extensively to fire the mg34 and the mg 42 from just about every position imaginable, the shoulder position being one of them.

You should be thankful that the game doesn't let you bring the mg34 and the mg42 to the shoulder like it realistically should. I bet it was discussed, and I bet it was shot down immediately because it would be a serious game-changer. Imagine one of those uber good players in this game like Zyfer or Fredkruge running around with a mg42 up to his shoulder with a 250 round belt...........let that sink in for a bit.......


Go jump on youtube and you'll find dozens of videos of guys that own mg34s and mg42s and in a few of them they fire those babies from the shoulder with astonishing accuracy.

If this game was truly accurate the mgers should be able to shoulder the mgs and really wreak havoc. Be thankful we can only use the mgs in prone or 'spray-n-pray' hipshoot in this game.

EDIT: check out this video, it illustrates what I said about shoulder firing the mg42. This shooter obviously knows how to shoot it correctly. This is one of the better videos on youtube, alot of others have 'noobs' shooting them very poorly.
http://youtu.be/DW9gVEYCfqY

He just dumped out 50 rounds in 6 seconds flat very accurately, with very little recoil. Imagine a 250 round belt...
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GlobalEagle Jul 9, 2014 @ 12:12pm 
The DP is a much worse hipfire gun than the MG34 though. Where is the balance?
- Stich - Jul 9, 2014 @ 12:14pm 
Originally posted by 2142General:
The DP is a much worse hipfire gun than the MG34 though. Where is the balance?

Get ur Russian mg leveled up and grab the German mg 34. What balance? This game is using the weapons available at the time. Nobody ever said war was a 'balanced' affair.
GlobalEagle Jul 9, 2014 @ 12:18pm 
Originally posted by - Stich -:
Originally posted by 2142General:
The DP is a much worse hipfire gun than the MG34 though. Where is the balance?

Get ur Russian mg leveled up and grab the German mg 34. What balance? This game is using the weapons available at the time. Nobody ever said war was a 'balanced' affair.

Yeah, one problem, a player versus player game needs some balance otherwise it's pretty dumb. Problem isn't levelling the MG class, its the grind to 80. something I stated in OP.

I would consider most if not all the german guns supperior however, none are as crazy as MG is.
Moskeeto Jul 9, 2014 @ 12:21pm 
Originally posted by 2142General:
Originally posted by - Stich -:

Get ur Russian mg leveled up and grab the German mg 34. What balance? This game is using the weapons available at the time. Nobody ever said war was a 'balanced' affair.

Yeah, one problem, a player versus player game needs some balance otherwise it's pretty dumb.
Don't look at this game's balance in a player to player perspective like in most other games. Most games try to balance every single weapon to be viable in most situations. RO2, however, tries to emphasize team balance. The advantages and disadvantages of each team must then be balanced by map design. They have to take into account which team is attacking/defending and what sort of gear they have available in order to balance the map appropriately.
- Stich - Jul 9, 2014 @ 12:25pm 
Originally posted by 2142General:
Originally posted by - Stich -:

Get ur Russian mg leveled up and grab the German mg 34. What balance? This game is using the weapons available at the time. Nobody ever said war was a 'balanced' affair.

Yeah, one problem, a player versus player game needs some balance otherwise it's pretty dumb. Problem isn't levelling the MG class, its the grind to 80. something I stated in OP.

I would consider most if not all the german guns supperior however, none are as crazy as MG is.

I disagree completely, Russian smgs are far superior as well as the semi-autos.

As far as the climb to 80, well us vets had to grind as well. Suck it up, Buttercup.
Julius Jul 9, 2014 @ 1:53pm 
Originally posted by 2142General:
The DP is a much worse hipfire gun than the MG34 though. Where is the balance?

its a realism game.i dont think you can "balance" realism.the ppsh-41 has about the same rate of fire as the mg42 and is prefered by most players.aswell as the flamethrowers of the americans.
=(e)= Lemonater47 Jul 9, 2014 @ 5:10pm 
The Russian weapons are far better close quarters than the German weapons though.
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