ARK: Survival Evolved

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AlexAndThunder May 19, 2015 @ 11:21am
Can you steal other player's pets like this?
The following question is full of different moving parts so I hope I'm phrasing it clearly.

I understand that if you join a tribe, you hand over ownership of all your pets to the tribe but in exchange can use any of the pets that belong to the tribe.

My questions are:

1) When you leave the tribe, do your pets stay with the tribe and no longer obey you?

2) Do you gain instant control over all the pets in the tribe when you join, regardless of them being mounted or not?

I'll also explain the exact scenario I want to do here:

Say there are four people in my group, we're all riding pterodactyls and we see three survivors down below, one of us circle around to the back of them, while the other three fly down in front drawing their fire (and field of view) to the front of them.

The individual who circled around back swoops down and grabs the player at the back off his mount (tamed pterodactyls can do this right?) and we then first request them to lay down arms unless they're cool with us dropping their friend to a messy death.

While we have their friend hostage high in the sky, we coerce them to join our tribe, get off their mounts, and then leave our tribe; Effectively stealing their pets.

(One other huge issue I'm concerned about here is if we were travelling with some pets on the ground, would they have been able to control them instantly after they joined us?)
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TheRightFoot  [developer] May 19, 2015 @ 11:29am 
1.) When you leave the tribe, do your pets stay with the tribe and no longer obey you?

The pets obey the tribe. You are in that tribe so therefore it still obeys you. However, the pet will not longer obey you if you leave the tribe.

2.) Do you gain instant control over all the pets in the tribe when you join, regardless of them being mounted or not?

Yes

3.) While we have their friend hostage high in the sky, we coerce them to join our tribe, get off their mounts, and then leave our tribe; Effectively stealing their pets.

This scenario is definitely possible.

4.) One other huge issue I'm concerned about here is if we were travelling with some pets on the ground, would they have been able to control them instantly after they joined us?

Yes
Last edited by TheRightFoot; May 19, 2015 @ 11:32am
AlexAndThunder May 19, 2015 @ 11:34am 
One more really impertinent question:

Will stealing people's pets feel like I'm kicking their puppies?
TheRightFoot  [developer] May 19, 2015 @ 11:35am 
Originally posted by IRLAlex:
One more really impertinent question:

Will stealing people's pets feel like I'm kicking their puppies?

Not sure...might have to ask your victims :D
Micboydoodle May 19, 2015 @ 11:38am 
Good to know!
JasonB May 19, 2015 @ 12:40pm 
Originally posted by TheRightFoot:
1.) When you leave the tribe, do your pets stay with the tribe and no longer obey you?

The pets obey the tribe. You are in that tribe so therefore it still obeys you. However, the pet will not longer obey you if you leave the tribe.

2.) Do you gain instant control over all the pets in the tribe when you join, regardless of them being mounted or not?

Yes

3.) While we have their friend hostage high in the sky, we coerce them to join our tribe, get off their mounts, and then leave our tribe; Effectively stealing their pets.

This scenario is definitely possible.

4.) One other huge issue I'm concerned about here is if we were travelling with some pets on the ground, would they have been able to control them instantly after they joined us?

Yes

I can see a new form of griefing here:
P1: "Hey do you want to become part of our tribe?"
P2: "Sure" - Joins trbe
P1 Kills P2
P1 Kills P1's Dinos because they will not defend themselves because they 'are part of the tribe'

Might need to address this.
Elliteratebiggit May 19, 2015 @ 12:45pm 
Originally posted by TheRightFoot:
1.) When you leave the tribe, do your pets stay with the tribe and no longer obey you?

The pets obey the tribe. You are in that tribe so therefore it still obeys you. However, the pet will not longer obey you if you leave the tribe.

2.) Do you gain instant control over all the pets in the tribe when you join, regardless of them being mounted or not?

Yes

3.) While we have their friend hostage high in the sky, we coerce them to join our tribe, get off their mounts, and then leave our tribe; Effectively stealing their pets.

This scenario is definitely possible.

4.) One other huge issue I'm concerned about here is if we were travelling with some pets on the ground, would they have been able to control them instantly after they joined us?

Yes


quick question if you are the one who tamed the dinos in the tribe and you leave will they obey you when you leave or will they obey the tribe
TheRightFoot  [developer] May 19, 2015 @ 12:46pm 
Originally posted by ElliterateBiggit:
Originally posted by TheRightFoot:
1.) When you leave the tribe, do your pets stay with the tribe and no longer obey you?

The pets obey the tribe. You are in that tribe so therefore it still obeys you. However, the pet will not longer obey you if you leave the tribe.

2.) Do you gain instant control over all the pets in the tribe when you join, regardless of them being mounted or not?

Yes

3.) While we have their friend hostage high in the sky, we coerce them to join our tribe, get off their mounts, and then leave our tribe; Effectively stealing their pets.

This scenario is definitely possible.

4.) One other huge issue I'm concerned about here is if we were travelling with some pets on the ground, would they have been able to control them instantly after they joined us?

Yes


quick question if you are the one who tamed the dinos in the tribe and you leave will they obey you when you leave or will they obey the tribe

Tribe
Elliteratebiggit May 19, 2015 @ 12:48pm 
damn it :(
Jetu May 19, 2015 @ 12:52pm 
What if the entire tribe disbands, does the owner become the last person to quit the tribe?
Can members be kicked out of the tribe? o.o
TheRightFoot  [developer] May 19, 2015 @ 12:53pm 
Yep. tribe members can get banished (kicked)
Elliteratebiggit May 19, 2015 @ 12:54pm 
Originally posted by Jetu Kiritateru:
What if the entire tribe disbands, does the owner become the last person to quit the tribe?
Can members be kicked out of the tribe? o.o

that is a good question who gets the dinos if that happens
Elliteratebiggit May 19, 2015 @ 12:55pm 
Originally posted by TheRightFoot:
Yep. tribe members can get banished (kicked)

or imprisoned :)
Last edited by Elliteratebiggit; May 19, 2015 @ 1:10pm
DUKE May 19, 2015 @ 1:00pm 
Originally posted by TheRightFoot:
1.) When you leave the tribe, do your pets stay with the tribe and no longer obey you?

The pets obey the tribe. You are in that tribe so therefore it still obeys you. However, the pet will not longer obey you if you leave the tribe.

2.) Do you gain instant control over all the pets in the tribe when you join, regardless of them being mounted or not?

Yes

3.) While we have their friend hostage high in the sky, we coerce them to join our tribe, get off their mounts, and then leave our tribe; Effectively stealing their pets.

This scenario is definitely possible.

4.) One other huge issue I'm concerned about here is if we were travelling with some pets on the ground, would they have been able to control them instantly after they joined us?

Yes

Id much rather leave a tribe and take all my hard earned pets with me instead of just losing them to a group of people
ryanucas May 19, 2015 @ 1:16pm 
Originally posted by Orion434:
Originally posted by TheRightFoot:
1.) When you leave the tribe, do your pets stay with the tribe and no longer obey you?

The pets obey the tribe. You are in that tribe so therefore it still obeys you. However, the pet will not longer obey you if you leave the tribe.

2.) Do you gain instant control over all the pets in the tribe when you join, regardless of them being mounted or not?

Yes

3.) While we have their friend hostage high in the sky, we coerce them to join our tribe, get off their mounts, and then leave our tribe; Effectively stealing their pets.

This scenario is definitely possible.

4.) One other huge issue I'm concerned about here is if we were travelling with some pets on the ground, would they have been able to control them instantly after they joined us?

Yes

Id much rather leave a tribe and take all my hard earned pets with me instead of just losing them to a group of people

play with people you trust and if you want to leave, they can always give you back control of your pets.
Shamrock May 19, 2015 @ 3:00pm 
Can you set permissions for your tribes members? E.g only certain tribe members(e.g non probationary/full members) have access to pets?

Also same question for bases/outposts, can we have certain doors than can only be opened by tribe officers?
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Date Posted: May 19, 2015 @ 11:21am
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