.shadow89. Mar 7, 2014 @ 4:24pm
DON'T play this game online
This game is at online mode really stupid. I played aggainst a shogun with guns. Ok all good til I beaten her army. He hads 2 groups on horses only. One of them have guns. I had 5 groups(easy Soldier) and I cant follow someone on horses with them, that's ok but he shoot with her one group the last 30 minutes and beat me. Problem: he hads endless ammo. This make the game really stupid for me because u have NO chance to win if he shoot u down and run away if u want engage.

DON'T play this online if u want to have fun.
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☩Daniel The Scottish☩ Mar 8, 2014 @ 1:32am 
LOL
Tyrannosaurus Rekt Mar 8, 2014 @ 4:43am 
Thanks for the advice, here's some for you.. Buy fodder units backed up by spear cavalry when encountering mounted firepower, also make use of line of sight.. This is a great game, so many ways to win or lose a battle
☩Daniel The Scottish☩ Mar 8, 2014 @ 5:23am 
Hmm.. DOnt play online battles... Play Only single Player and COOP...
.shadow89. Mar 8, 2014 @ 8:33am 
No this game and the whole Total war series are really cool in my oppinion and u r right if u say to counter with spear cavalry. That is not my problem. My problem is that the enemy cavalry(with rifles) had endless ammo. It could be a bug or a cheat I dont know but when not it's a bit unrealistic and not fair.
Vacationkitty Mar 8, 2014 @ 9:20am 
Wait, what? Endless ammo? I think thats a bug or something... I thought for sure artillary had ammo. But hey, I might be wrong.
Epic The Incandescent Mar 8, 2014 @ 12:26pm 
Originally posted by Surprisekitty:
Wait, what? Endless ammo? I think thats a bug or something... I thought for sure artillary had ammo. But hey, I might be wrong.
everything has ammo even the ai, only thing that doesnt is meele(duh) ships and towers, might have used cheat engine if it was a online head to head but ive no clue if it would work on here.
[B'oh] ShadowFighter88 Mar 8, 2014 @ 2:19pm 
What cav unit were they using and did you notice any veterancy on it? I'm not sure that this is the case, just voicing a possibility, but if it was a unit that already carried a relatively high amount of ammo (and I'm not familiar with the firearm-wielding units in the game or expansion so I might be wrong already) that was then vett-ed up to carry even more.

I assume this was in Avatar Conquest mode? Because I believe one of the veterancy options for ranged units is so they can carry more ammo, but I don't know the actual numbers involved.
.shadow89. Mar 8, 2014 @ 3:24pm 
It was the avatar conquest mode. I dont know wich unit it was but he was a lvl 1 or 2 avatar so he must have a early unit. Abbility to carry more ammo is possible but how he could kill with 20 rifles 400 soldiers? My tactic was to wait and if he is out of ammo he must engage but no way he fires all my troops down. I done all save my army.(casual formation and no more than 2 lines of soldiers)
[B'oh] ShadowFighter88 Mar 8, 2014 @ 3:34pm 
Well one thing I could suggest is bringing some missile troops of your own - cavalry are vulnerable to any sort of ranged attack, be it bows or bullets, and having multiple units of missile troops means you could cover a fair bit of your immediate surroundings.

One other possibility - the capturable buildings on the battle map, was one of them an Archery Dojo? If so, he may have captured it and periodically run the cav back there to resupply (capturing an Archery Dojo improves the effectiveness of all of that player's missile troops and any units near it replenish their ammunition).
Misinformed Zebra Mar 8, 2014 @ 8:41pm 
.... you know there is a button you can uncheck when loading online play which then flags you to only fight players without the FOTS expansion...right?
celtic warrior Mar 9, 2014 @ 12:07am 
after reading what the op said im goona play some shogun 2 online :P
Songbird Mar 9, 2014 @ 3:42am 
OP faced mounted gunners and they are insane. I like how people are trying to play it down by telling him to bring spear cav. Did you guys even face mounted gunners yet? They delete units they shoot into from the battlefield.

The only thing you can do against a mounted gunner army is to be super lucky and hope that ur enemy is horribly bad because you will NEVER catch them with spear cav because they outrun you.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tU7vL9-rQH8

TW: Mounted Gunners
Last edited by Songbird; Mar 9, 2014 @ 3:43am
[B'oh] ShadowFighter88 Mar 9, 2014 @ 5:10pm 
Well that's where forests and your own missile troops come in - cav's vulnerable to missiles and forests both impede accuracy and slow cav down more than other troop types.
Dawks [PIR] Mar 9, 2014 @ 9:26pm 
No, wait, I think he has a point:
He got confused so therefore advises others not to play PvP.
Even a fool has his story to tell.
It's up to those who aren't foolish to listen.
.shadow89. Mar 10, 2014 @ 3:00pm 
Originally posted by Dawks PIR:
No, wait, I think he has a point:
He got confused so therefore advises others not to play PvP.
Even a fool has his story to tell.
It's up to those who aren't foolish to listen.

I want a discussion about that and now I know something more. And somebody who's call sombody a fool is the greatest fool maybe ;)
Thanks to all for this hints. ^^
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