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Barkaya Jun 1, 2016 @ 10:43am
God of Vengeance and God of Evil
Is there any way to increase their spawn chance (like playing with specific Runewords enabled or on Nightmare/Chaos difficulty or both)? Or they are just very rare and I simply need to clean up all Arenas encountered during runs over and over again?
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Nefer Jun 1, 2016 @ 3:35pm 
Ive never seen more than one god statue in an arena dungeon per game, so its my oppinion that god of vengeance/evil have a low chance to replace God of Contracts in any run

At least you get to keep God of Vengeance in the statue room. Ive had God of Evil about 3 times now, and he is super nasty powerful. But sadly i never managed to find another god statue for the betraying god of evil cheevo, the last one im missing.
o4zloiroman  [developer] Jun 1, 2016 @ 7:30pm 
I met them first time myself past 45 hours mark. So, yeah, they're pretty rare.

It's not uncommon to meet more than one statue per run. There's achievement that requres you to cover your whole body with tattoos, and it's not the most difficult one to achieve.
Barkaya Jun 1, 2016 @ 11:15pm 
Thanks for answers, I'll keep on delving into depths then.
Nefer Jun 2, 2016 @ 2:33am 
Originally posted by o4zloiroman:
I met them first time myself past 45 hours mark. So, yeah, they're pretty rare.

It's not uncommon to meet more than one statue per run. There's achievement that requres you to cover your whole body with tattoos, and it's not the most difficult one to achieve.

Oh, i think you misunderstood. You can roughly expect to encounter 3 god statues on the top floor of a dungeon during a run. But arena dungeons, there only ever seem possible to have one statue spawn for an entire run, yes? We were talking of the arena only gods.
86 hours played and I've never seen any of these gods. I'm doing all arenas i can and reveal every tiles on each floor. It should be rare, but not so much. What is the percentage of people never seeing these gods ?
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Barkaya Feb 3 @ 3:37pm 
Maybe in some early game version they, at least, were been spawning until one of content updates or balance patches messed up their spawn rate? I'm 78 hours in and really don't feel myself being even slightly close to the group of those 12,3% God of Vengeance finders, let alone 5,4% God of Evil finders...
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Nefer Feb 6 @ 8:23am 
Both are -extremely- rare. But keep at it, Vengeance is a game changer once you find em.
I have 232 hours logged. Have only seen the evil god twice, and both times he was third god and last god, so i had no chance to replace him to get the achievement for abandoning evil god. I win almost everytime and uncover every tile and every 'dungeon event'. This spawn rate is ridiculously low, and as a result i cannot get the last achievement
Nefer Feb 15 @ 9:43am 
I gave up on that cheevo myself, just not worth my time.
sacalbal Feb 27 @ 11:52am 
Originally posted by sacalbal:
86 hours played and I've never seen any of these gods. I'm doing all arenas i can and reveal every tiles on each floor. It should be rare, but not so much. What is the percentage of people never seeing these gods ?
Finally made a strategy to find it more often. It's based on the fact that you can't find more than a limited amount of god statue each run (3 ?) :
Each time you find a a god statue (even in arena), quit and resume the game. The floor will be reseted, not incrementing the god statue count. Continue your run until you find it or finish your run.
This way, I even managed I get the god statue early to betray the god of evil.
thanks sacalbal. that is useful intel!!!! i will give it a go
Hi Sacalbal. Confirmed-your technique works. I replayed ( 'quit' then 'continue' ) levels 16-19 on hardcore difficulty approximately 50 times over 3 hours. But did finally get god of evil, then dropped him and got achievement. I also took the god of vengence at start to eliminate one of the possible gods in the mini map dungeon. Thanks again. after the hours i logged ( 230plus) to get the betray god of evil achievement, ya original poster is right---Way toooo low of drop rate.
On a side note: does your actions while doing this count towards score? If so that is how those guys at top of leaderboard may have cheated. Just replay first few levels till you have maximum in all shrines( mainly resistence/ max mana), level 10/ the gear and spells and gods you want, and you could play endless for ever after that. I made it to level 76 legit in endless and scored only 1.7 million i think? less than i got for completing one of the other mission to make top 200 or so. Now i have all awards and can retire in peace lol
I don't know about scoring but I think yes. This tech can be abused a lot in other ways. For example, play with Delamorrey (+ 1 strength by enemy killed). Kill all enemies on the floor but do not go on next floor. Quit and resume. Rince and repeat on the same floor. Your strength will increase each time. Finally when you go on next dungeon your strength will be lowered only by the amount of enemies killed on the last floor (and not by all killed by repeating the process). This means unlimited strength...and breaks the game.
Barkaya Mar 13 @ 2:32pm 
I've finally found both of them!
First I've started a run in Chaos mode while picking God of Devastation
Originally posted by thegrassyknoll:
to eliminate one of the possible gods in the mini map dungeon.
Then I've decided to "quit/continue" grind one of early levels (to avoid putting myself into too much dangerous situations) and therefore chose 9th dungeon floor (last one where Erosion traps still don't appear) for that. After 8 hour long (in one game session!) grind and endless God of Contract statues in Arenas I've decided to move on and just finish this run. On 11th floor I've found yet another Arena which I entered without any expectations...
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and found God of Vengeance.
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Finding God of Evil was been a bit more interesting. I've done (almost) same preparations (choosing Chaos mode, picking up God of Vengeance, grinding 9th level for 6 hours straight, being sick of it and moving on to just finish a run) and then somewhere on 11-14th floors I've found God of Devastation statue outside Arena dungeon, just sitting there in "main" dungeon zone. With thought "finally broke game scripts" I've "quit/continue"d this level and moved further. On 18th floor I found another God of Devastation statue which also was been sitting in "main" dungeon zone even though Arena actually was been present on this floor. With "wtf" expression on my face I've gone clearing that Arena aaaaaaaaand...
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right, found God of Evil statue, instantly cleared Arena, prayed at statue, very quickly moved myself to main floor and prayed to God of Devastation. Ta-dam! Two most elusive achievements were earned in just one minute.
Devs should look into God of Devastaion spawning on "main" dungeon floor instead of Arena, though (if he's actually supposed to be Arena exclusive, of course).
Nefer Mar 13 @ 4:29pm 
God of devastation has always been a mainfloor statue. The only ones that is on arena floor is Contracts, Evil and Vengeance.
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