Bersy Sep 6, 2012 @ 5:01am
Arma 2 has the most unrealistic controls ever made and no optimization
Arma 2 has the most horrible movement, and mouse movements (positive and negative acceleration) that dont allow to aim realistically (unless you suck at shooters really bad) expecially at close range, maybe its realistic for those whose have problems with their muscles and nerves, so they move and aim the same way in real life.
Throwing is extremly limited and uncontrollable.

I use 400dpi and mouseSensitivityX=0.25; mouseSensitivityY=0.25; Turning 180 is way to slow.
When just using more DPI I can rotate like mad doing 360 turn in split second. When prone you can rotate ultra fast, which is unrealistic, prone in RO2 has hard limit, not negative acceleration, its much more realistic and you dont get annoyed by stupid mouse movement.
You cant use low sens like 30-60cm/360 here, negative acceleration will be so massive that you wont be able to turn at all.
Not alowing medium-low sensitivity gamers to play this game is stupid.

There is no excuse for wierd positive acceleration curve, it makes nothing realistic unless you have problems with your body control in real life.


1st person view that isnt camera in the head, its just 3d interface with ugly world model, because of this you cant always see when your weapon is colliding with something.


Its not possible to make realistic aiming and movement by restricting mouse movement. It will always be horrible and stupid.
(and Bohemia Interactive knows this and will correct it for Arma 3, hope they get it right this time)



Arma engine has no optimization at all and the game runs horrible on i5 2500k 4.5Ghz 8GB Ram and 560ti and not even on max.
Input lag is also not low enought, even with:
GPU_MaxFramesAhead=1
mouseSmoothing=0
+ alot of windows and bios tweaks.
On max settings input lag is ~100-200ms.

DayZ is great mod, too bad they decided to make it on this horrible engine.
Last edited by Bersy; Sep 9, 2012 @ 1:32pm
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Jedra Sep 6, 2012 @ 5:10am 
I guess maybe you should go back and play some realistic games you might like. May I suggest Alien Vs Predator...
B00tsy Sep 6, 2012 @ 5:20am 
Shoo go back to CoD.
Especially when you say the helicopter controls are realistic I can't take you seriously. The flight controls in ArmA is probably the only thing that is slightly arcade'ish.
Bersy Sep 6, 2012 @ 5:25am 
Originally posted by B00tsy:
Shoo go back to CoD.
Especially when you say the helicopter controls are realistic I can't take you seriously. The flight controls in ArmA is probably the only thing that is slightly arcade'ish.

I didnt say that they are realistic, yes they are way too easy, but atleast not screwed up like character aiming, and CoD as a FPS is much more realistic that arma in movement and aiming, expect bullet physics
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Foreign Claus Sep 6, 2012 @ 5:32am 
Arma 2 is closest to realism as it gets. It is played by major US armys as for tactical training. If you find a more realistic military game than arma, i would gladly like to hear it :)
Len. Sep 6, 2012 @ 6:06am 
Just change mouse smoothing in Options and u dont have any probs ;)
Niklas Sep 6, 2012 @ 6:42am 
Bohemia developes Scenario Simulations like VBS for the US ARMY and NATO, ArmA is pretty much the much less expensive "civil" version. I think they know a bit more about what makes a realistic game than you do.
Jedra Sep 6, 2012 @ 6:49am 
Originally posted by Berserker:
I didnt say that they are realistic, yes they are way too easy, but atleast not screwed up like character aiming, and CoD as a FPS is much more realistic that arma in movement and aiming, expect bullet physics

Thank you - I was having a bad day and this cheered me right up!
Bersy Sep 6, 2012 @ 6:54am 
Originally posted by Niklas:
Bohemia developes Scenario Simulations like VBS for the US ARMY and NATO, ArmA is pretty much the much less expensive "civil" version. I think they know a bit more about what makes a realistic game than you do.

I see that you have problems with reading 1st post
Aki Sep 6, 2012 @ 7:23am 
Arma 2 is realistic so go to bed with you
kingkrabbe.#bof Sep 6, 2012 @ 8:11am 
"arma2 is the most unrealistic game ever created" <-- I know tons of games which don't even care if they are realistic or not

arma2 comes pretty near to military realism (like sniping... I find it more realisic (zeroing) like in that other game where you can shoot testicles and such).

BUT the controls are crappy and somewhat unrealisic that's true. they don't feel natural to me either - as far as movement can feel natural when you only hit some keyboard buttons.

you should have put a less aggressive title to your post. =)
Niklas Sep 6, 2012 @ 8:14am 
Originally posted by Berserker:
Originally posted by Niklas:
Bohemia developes Scenario Simulations like VBS for the US ARMY and NATO, ArmA is pretty much the much less expensive "civil" version. I think they know a bit more about what makes a realistic game than you do.

I see that you have problems with reading 1st post
I read it, but you are talking ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥.
Bersy Sep 6, 2012 @ 8:55am 
Originally posted by Tephan:
maybe its hard to aim if you have your ♥♥♥♥ing sensitivity at 100% or 5%... or hell maybe you just suck ♥♥♥♥♥. go back to cod you troll

Im really sorry to hear that you have horrible aim in shooters and bad control over your limbs in real life, but that doesnt give you right to insult me. And I use mouseSensitivityX=0.25;
mouseSensitivityY=0.25; with 400dpi whitch is medium sensitivity, and using something like 5% of the sensitivity bar should not make hard to aim, its always easyer to aim with lower sens exept when game uses stupid mouse movements
Bersy Sep 6, 2012 @ 8:59am 
Originally posted by Tephan:
oh and i just noticed by looking at your profile page. you have 133 hours played on arma2:OA. 83 hours this week. for somebody woh hates the game so much, you sure play it allot. ♥♥♥♥ off back to your bridge troll

I have 133 hours in DayZ mod (not in Arma) because its great game to play with friends, and most of the time except combat I use arrow keys to not get RSI from this game.

You should stop your homophobic insults, and act more mature. I see that Arma player base consists in angry kids
Weshaven Sep 6, 2012 @ 9:15am 
Originally posted by Berserker:
Originally posted by B00tsy:
Shoo go back to CoD.
Especially when you say the helicopter controls are realistic I can't take you seriously. The flight controls in ArmA is probably the only thing that is slightly arcade'ish.

I didnt say that they are realistic, yes they are way too easy, but atleast not screwed up like character aiming, and CoD as a FPS is much more realistic that arma in movement and aiming, expect bullet physics

I fail to see how Call of Duty is more realistic than ArmA. Especially aiming wise: YEAHHHH. AIM ASSIST FTW. No. That's not realistic.
Bersy Sep 6, 2012 @ 9:35am 
Originally posted by HATM Brett:
I fail to see how Call of Duty is more realistic than ArmA. Especially aiming wise: YEAHHHH. AIM ASSIST FTW. No. That's not realistic.

Only moving, aiming wise and throwing wise, I never sayd anything about tactics and other. And dont troll with xbox version, there is no aim assist on PC.
Positive and negative mouse acceleration is not realistic, you can turn extreemly fast with just higher dpi, Bohemia failed at mouse controls hard and they said that they will improve them in Arma 3 because they know that this is really unrealistic and badly made in arma 2.
Games without acceleration allow mouse to become continuation of your hand in shooter.
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