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Au-heppa  [developer] Mar 19, 2016 @ 5:14pm
Where do you get stuck with the language system?
Hey.

Since a lot of people have had problems with the language system I would like to know what part of the game are people having problem with it. Is it right away the first time you meet an alien face to face? Or is it slightly after that?
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what does uppa mean?
**Smile**Sun** Mar 20, 2016 @ 2:13am 
Translator Notes: do not support the Russian.
Au-heppa  [developer] Mar 20, 2016 @ 3:17am 
Originally posted by xXx_( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)_xXx:
what does uppa mean?

Do you get stuck trying to translate every word there is?

Originally posted by **Smile**Sun**:
Translator Notes: do not support the Russian.

Do you mean it doesn't support a cyrillic font? If not I will try to fix that ASAP. Or do you mean it's not translated to Russian? There has been people interested in to translate it into Russian, but I am not sure what the progress is.
**Smile**Sun** Mar 20, 2016 @ 9:27am 
http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=648938090
I translated fromearth_russian, closecaption_english. Russian Cyrillic is not working in game on F1 Translate alien language to your guesses in subtitles.
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Au-heppa  [developer] Mar 20, 2016 @ 11:43am 
So, does it show them correctly in the language menu or the closed captions? The language menu uses Verdana, the subtitles use Tahoma. I remember System not supporting Cyrillic, but I switched that to Verdana in a patch.
The Zin Mar 21, 2016 @ 12:36am 
ok i get stuck trying to figure out long sentences that require like 5 words and some times the mod likes to reset some words that i have noted me, so if i go off the game for a while i cant remember what it was. (note im at the point where you find your friends drop pod i found a power gen that powered up a wire that went into a wall right over one of the trains but i could not figure out what to do else there.

but i would like if you got atleast a hint that you choose the correct word like it turns green in the translator window to confirm you have selected the correct one in that row. atleast for us that finds learning stuff like this hard :c

i mean i dont want to kill the aliens or threaten them i want to be kind to them but the language system kinda makes me not able to do that cause of its advanced way to learn stuff

also some hints at what you need to do to proceed the level would be nice

and its also pretty hard to actually translate each word you learn
Last edited by The Zin; Mar 21, 2016 @ 12:38am
Au-heppa  [developer] Mar 21, 2016 @ 2:11am 
I am wondering if I should enable the Mind Reader by default, and not have all NPCs attack you if you use it on them. Though it would not solve all problems.

Originally posted by The Zin:
but i would like if you got atleast a hint that you choose the correct word like it turns green in the translator window to confirm you have selected the correct one in that row. atleast for us that finds learning stuff like this hard :c

I am kind of against adding something that just out right tells you what option is right. Though, I have been thinking about a skill system where you can unlock skills and that could be one. Other option, instead of having the right word glow green would be to have the NPC nod when you select the right word (this would still be "cheating" / compromising the gameplay, but it would be easier to do since I wouldn't have to send the language sentences data to the client side).

Originally posted by The Zin:
and its also pretty hard to actually translate each word you learn

I am not sure if I should just remove some words from the list, since not all of them even need to be used by the player.

Originally posted by The Zin:
some times the mod likes to reset some words that i have noted me

Do you mean you write down a description in the translation notes, then reload the game and it's not showing up? If you load the save file from before you unlocked the word it wont show up in the language notes until you have unlocked the word again. It should keep your description for it, so it's not there's a bug.


Originally posted by The Zin:
also some hints at what you need to do to proceed the level would be nice

Is this a general problem or just problem in the hospital level?
The Zin Mar 22, 2016 @ 1:57am 
about the hints on what you need to do/where you need to go.. its mostly at the hospital and so on tough i managed to proceed somehow but im stuck at the part where you find your friends pod with the alien soldiers. and i find it annoying after trying to go pacifist trough the game that i should fight them i also had to fight the guards in the hospital because i had no idea what i had to do. i guess i had to get an alien to help me but how could i do that when i cant translate the words... this is hard for a guy with ADD
Au-heppa  [developer] Mar 22, 2016 @ 2:24am 
I remember other people having trouble with the guards in the hospital, too. I might add some kind of tutorial / introduction to the concept of what you need to do.

You don't need to fight the soldiers either. You never need to fight or kill anyone (you might have to destroy robotic enemies). I should try to make it easier to approach the place without them noticing you.
TheSlyBrit Mar 22, 2016 @ 3:58pm 
I don't know what to do, I'm in the hospital I think, but I don't actually know what I can do to continue.
Au-heppa  [developer] Mar 22, 2016 @ 4:42pm 
Okay, my next order of business it to try figure out how to make that part better.
TheSlyBrit Mar 23, 2016 @ 11:45am 
Okay, I figured it out, the way I'd make it better is have some sort of hint (Such as glowing wires.) that show that the guard panel opens the door.

Thing is, now I'm stuck because I don't know how to ask people to follow me and it appears that after finding Anthony's pod you need to ask someone to open a door for you so you can unlock the train car thingy.
argoon Mar 25, 2016 @ 10:37am 
Originally posted by Au-heppa:
Hey.

Since a lot of people have had problems with the language system I would like to know what part of the game are people having problem with it. Is it right away the first time you meet an alien face to face? Or is it slightly after that?

Please read to the end, first to anwser the question, i just got stuck at the first Alien i add to comunicate with, i tried to make sence of it all at first but it was just taking so long and i was stucked in the same place for so long that i just got frustrated and quit the game, this coupled as well, with the fact that i never liked learning new languages in the real world, conspired for me to give up, sorry if this makes me sound as a dumb or lazy person, because i'm not, perhaps is age, i just don't have the will to spend so much time and energy on a single game anymore, is how it is and i will not hid it, BUT THIS IS ME (sorry for the caps) i'm not here to force the developers to change the game, they can keep it as it is and anyone like me, that don't want to go trough the complexity of the language system, just don't play the game, is that easy but let the others enjoy it, is free and they don't own us anything, we need more games that break the normality, enoug said.
Au-heppa  [developer] Mar 25, 2016 @ 10:58am 
Yeah, I don't want to change the nature of the language system itself, but I want to make it easier to learn. More opportunities for people to learn the words. I also kind of need to make it clear-er that you don't need to learn every word, or simply remove words that are not used in any sentence or can't be explained easily.

I have been thinking about making a short additional level set (one or two levels long) that would focus only on the language system. It might be easier for players if it was the only focus of the levels. The problem with the current normal level is that I can only change them so much without completely messing up people's save files. I guess it would be fine-ish if I posted a warning that the update was coming well before hand.

It doesn't help that people also get stuck with trying to figure out what they are supposed to do in the first place. There's a bunch of places where people are not sure what to do. And if after that they are sometimes required to use the language system I can understand they get frustrated and will leave.

I am also understanding not a lot of players use the fighting route. A lot of people seem to, at least to my understand, go with the pacifist route. Using threatening and even just straight up attacking people is meant to be a way to continue the game if you get frustrated but people don't want to take it.

LeadKiller Mar 26, 2016 @ 8:48pm 
I get stuck with some menus being too small or too large so I have to change resolution to have font and buttons and such change size :(
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