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erretter Oct 25, 2014 @ 1:27pm
Would be Day-1-buy for me, but...
"Feature Requests"?!
Well. Okay.
So this game is not finished yet.
Gonna spent my time with playing full games instead.

Call me, once this game has reached v1.0.

For the simple minded:
NO! I don´t say adding features is a bad thing. But I say, if features are still missing the game is NOT v1.0.
It´s BETA.
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AlphaBeard  [developer] Oct 25, 2014 @ 1:33pm 
We just plan on continuing to support the game after launch, including releasing on future platforms. No better people to tell us what we should be tinkering with than players, and I just want to make clear what requests we've already heard and give a central location to collect (and respond to) that feedback, rather than having it scattered across many seperate threads.

Lots of games have very long lifespans where they change a lot over their life after 1.0, incoporating player feedback into patches, including many of the most popular, like Diablo, Civilization and many others.

You're welcome to wait till we've added more stuff though! Cheers :D
Last edited by AlphaBeard; Oct 25, 2014 @ 1:36pm
Ben! Oct 25, 2014 @ 1:40pm 
lol @ this post. What?
erretter Oct 25, 2014 @ 2:04pm 
Originally posted by AlphaBeard:
We just plan on continuing to support the game after launch, including releasing on future platforms. No better people to tell us what we should be tinkering with than players, and I just want to make clear what requests we've already heard and give a central location to collect (and respond to) that feedback, rather than having it scattered across many seperate threads.

Lots of games have very long lifespans where they change a lot over their life after 1.0, incoporating player feedback into patches, including many of the most popular, like Diablo, Civilization and many others.

You're welcome to wait till we've added more stuff though! Cheers :D

This means you are still in Early Access.
You released an incomplete game and now asking people for further improvements.

This is the very defintion of Early Access.
mxmissile Oct 25, 2014 @ 2:10pm 
Erretter, I just lost 10 IQ reading your posts. If you think this game is EA you need to go back to school kid. Go play WarZ, The Forest, or any of the other games truly labeled "EA"... this game is definatly not.

Just because a developer wants to keep working on the game is a plus, and has ABSOLUTELY nothing related to being EA. I'm sorry but "continuing to support" is greater than "fire and forget".

Now go back to your nintendo and mario cart.

erretter Oct 25, 2014 @ 2:20pm 
Originally posted by mxmissile:
Erretter, I just lost 10 IQ reading your posts. If you think this game is EA you need to go back to school kid. Go play WarZ, The Forest, or any of the other games truly labeled "EA"... this game is definatly not.

Just because a developer wants to keep working on the game is a plus, and has ABSOLUTELY nothing related to being EA. I'm sorry but "continuing to support" is greater than "fire and forget".

Now go back to your nintendo and mario cart.
Glorious ignored my opening post. Hilarious.

As I said: adding features is a good thing.
BEFORE the relase.
Almea Oct 25, 2014 @ 2:34pm 
Originally posted by Erretter:
Originally posted by mxmissile:
Erretter, I just lost 10 IQ reading your posts. If you think this game is EA you need to go back to school kid. Go play WarZ, The Forest, or any of the other games truly labeled "EA"... this game is definatly not.

Just because a developer wants to keep working on the game is a plus, and has ABSOLUTELY nothing related to being EA. I'm sorry but "continuing to support" is greater than "fire and forget".

Now go back to your nintendo and mario cart.
Glorious ignored my opening post. Hilarious.

As I said: adding features is a good thing.
BEFORE the relase.

Most games do continue adding features AFTER release, you know...

Crusader Kings II is constantly adding/tweaking stuff. Binding of isaac got a big halloween update after it was released
erretter Oct 25, 2014 @ 2:39pm 
Originally posted by Velocity:
Originally posted by Erretter:
Glorious ignored my opening post. Hilarious.

As I said: adding features is a good thing.
BEFORE the relase.

Most games do continue adding features AFTER release, you know...

Crusader Kings II is constantly adding/tweaking stuff. Binding of isaac got a big halloween update after it was released


Originally posted by Velocity:
Originally posted by Erretter:
Glorious ignored my opening post. Hilarious.

As I said: adding features is a good thing.
BEFORE the relase.

Most games do continue adding features AFTER release, you know...

Crusader Kings II is constantly adding/tweaking stuff. Binding of isaac got a big halloween update after it was released
This is why don´t waste my time playing incomplete games like this, before they are at least 1 year old.
I won´t get cheated by incomplete games.

The thing is... I got only so much time for each game.
And I won´t invest this specific amount of time before the game is content complete. This would be a waste.
And I also won´t invest this time twice. 2014 and 2016 again, because then the game has improved so much... this would be an even bigger waste.
Almea Oct 25, 2014 @ 2:42pm 
By that logic, you shouldn't be buying pretty much anything. Because all games cna be improved, there is no absolute completion for games. This is a complete game, it's not in ebta, but all games cna be improved.

Same with cars, are you considering every car to be in "beta"? Because theyr'e being improved too, same with most other things in the world.
plectrophenax Oct 25, 2014 @ 2:43pm 
The question always comes down to whether the game and its feature-set is worth the asking price. As someone who has played the game, I wholeheartedly believe it is. That the devs are willing to add features if the community thinks that is warranted is very welcome.

If you believe that feature additions are a no-no after release, then I'm sorry to say that I believe your philosophy will differ from many others, including myself.
erretter Oct 25, 2014 @ 2:47pm 
Originally posted by Velocity:
By that logic, you shouldn't be buying pretty much anything. Because all games cna be improved, there is no absolute completion for games. This is a complete game, it's not in ebta, but all games cna be improved.

Same with cars, are you considering every car to be in "beta"? Because theyr'e being improved too, same with most other things in the world.
As I said before I wait at least one year with every purchase, to make sure the game is 100% complete and won´t get anything else added. Exceptions are japanese games. The japanese are old school enough to only release full games on day one. And since they proof that this is possible I use the word "cheating" on any other devs who "add features" after release.
Skullguise Oct 25, 2014 @ 2:49pm 
So by the OP "logic":

A game that releases DLC is also Early Access. (They are ADDING content AFTER the RELEASE)

Keep in mind:

The difference with what the devs appear to be doing here is that it is FREE. The game is feature complete now and if you disabled all future patches that wouldn't change.

EDIT: @ Eretter- Japanese games don't have DLC then? Odd I have downloaded quite a lot of DLC on my WII, WIIU, PS3, PS4 games made by Japanese companies. For example, Hyrule Warriors (great game) has a lot of DLC coming out soon and already has some now and it just released. I see you approve of DLC however as you have 727 DLCs.

Last edited by Skullguise; Oct 25, 2014 @ 3:00pm
erretter Oct 25, 2014 @ 3:05pm 
Originally posted by Skullguise:
So by the OP "logic":

A game that releases DLC is also Early Access. (They are ADDING content AFTER the RELEASE)

Keep in mind:

The difference with what the devs appear to be doing here is that it is FREE. The game is feature complete now and if you disabled all future patches that wouldn't change.

EDIT: @ Eretter- Japanese games don't have DLC then? Odd I have downloaded quite a lot of DLC on my WII, WIIU, PS3, PS4 games made by Japanese companies. For example, Hyrule Warriors (great game) has a lot of DLC coming out soon and already has some now and it just released. I see you approve of DLC however as you have 727 DLCs.

Yep.
Every single DLC was bought within a GOTY-Edition, Complete-Edition, Collection. 1-3 years post release.

Oh and yeah, the japanese are loosing their honor in this topic more and more. Mario Golf is another example. Capcom and Tecmo are the worst. Nothing is sacred anymore.
ragosaurus Oct 25, 2014 @ 3:10pm 
Originally posted by Erretter:
As I said before I wait at least one year with every purchase

Nobody cares. Set up a blog and vent your drivel there.
plectrophenax Oct 25, 2014 @ 3:33pm 
Well you have your answer, Erreter. This game was released 24 Oct of this year, so just give it a year like you say you do with all of your other game purchases.
erretter Oct 25, 2014 @ 3:55pm 
Originally posted by plectrophenax:
Well you have your answer, Erreter. This game was released 24 Oct of this year, so just give it a year like you say you do with all of your other game purchases.
I came here to state my dissapointment and in the search of supporters. But I guess all of you like to play incomplete beta games.
And/or you have so much time that you play a game in the week of release and then months or even years later, a second time, to see the new features.

Or wait! Now I got you!
You play the incomplete game right after relase.
You praise the idea of adding features post release.
And... theeeen after a few months, when the features get eventually added......
You won´t notice them at all! And never play them! Since you are already on your next incomplete game!

This makes me wonder... why do you praise the idea of adding features post release, when you never play them?!
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