Rich ¥Weeds¥ Nagel Feb 18, 2013 @ 2:51am
A SERIOUS REQUEST TO VALVE!
Valve, for the love of gawd and all things holy, PLEASE do NOT update Counter-Strike: Condition Zero, Counter-Strike: Condition Zero Deleted Scenes, or Day of Defeat!

Absolutely NOTHING... NO "new content" delivery system, NO "SteamPipe" format or installation, NO GoldSource engine updates, NO "updates" to the graphics renderers or audio support (e.g. removing the D3D renderer, or EAX 4-channel surround-sound support), NO moving the files and directories structure all over the place, and NO updates to the games themselves.

PLEASE, *NO* UPDATES!
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^(DNR)^JROD Feb 19, 2013 @ 9:05pm 
why
Cogajon Feb 21, 2013 @ 9:53pm 
Why would they?
Rich ¥Weeds¥ Nagel Feb 22, 2013 @ 5:56am 
JUST AS I THOUGHT, Condition Zero NOW is getting the same SCREWED UP treatment!

http://steamcommunity.com/games/80/announcements/detail/1731903282520226702

Expect the same for CS:CZ-DS/DoD as well. Oh freakin' well...
FractaL Mar 3, 2013 @ 10:26pm 
Can't wait. Maybe when they update it mine will actually launch again! :)
They aren't changing anything besides a few console commands, from what I've seen. But I've just been on 1.6.
Rich ¥Weeds¥ Nagel Mar 6, 2013 @ 8:53pm 
Just a heads-up... the so-called "update" to CS:CZ has now been publically pushed by Valve!
Broetchen Mar 10, 2013 @ 7:20am 
Nothing bad about the updates, openGL is the best anyway...
Rich ¥Weeds¥ Nagel Mar 10, 2013 @ 11:22am 
Originally posted by Broetchen:
Nothing bad about the updates, openGL is the best anyway...

Except for the (quite a few) folks who have problems running the OpenGL graphics renderer on their PCs (e.g. poor framerate/performace, or constant crashes when starting the game).

Their ONLY alternative is SOFTWARE MODE (YUCK!).

Not to mention, the REMOVAL of EAX (and A3D) 4-channel surround-sound (3D 'positional' audio) support... yeah, that's a 'really nice' so-called 'update' :(
instabilis Mar 13, 2013 @ 4:20pm 
Originally posted by Rich ¥Weeds¥ Nagel:
Originally posted by Broetchen:
Nothing bad about the updates, openGL is the best anyway...

Except for the (quite a few) folks who have problems running the OpenGL graphics renderer on their PCs (e.g. poor framerate/performace, or constant crashes when starting the game).

Their ONLY alternative is SOFTWARE MODE (YUCK!).

Not to mention, the REMOVAL of EAX (and A3D) 4-channel surround-sound (3D 'positional' audio) support... yeah, that's a 'really nice' so-called 'update' :(
EAX and A3D aren't used anymore, they are deprecated, have been for years. EAX was replaced with OpenAL years ago.
Rich ¥Weeds¥ Nagel Mar 13, 2013 @ 6:56pm 
Originally posted by instabilis:
EAX and A3D aren't used anymore, they are deprecated, have been for years. EAX was replaced with OpenAL years ago.

So, can you confirm that 4-channel quadraphonic stereo does indeed function with these updates (so far, that would include Half-Life, Counter-Strike, and possibly Counter-Strike: Condition Zero)?
instabilis Mar 14, 2013 @ 1:08pm 
Originally posted by Rich ¥Weeds¥ Nagel:
Originally posted by instabilis:
EAX and A3D aren't used anymore, they are , have been for years. EAX was replaced with OpenAL years ago.

So, can you confirm that 4-channel quadraphonic stereo does indeed function with these updates (so far, that would include Half-Life, Counter-Strike, and possibly Counter-Strike: Condition Zero)?
Why wouldn't it? OpenAL maintains all the same functionality EAX had.
Rich ¥Weeds¥ Nagel Mar 14, 2013 @ 1:28pm 
Originally posted by instabilis:
Why wouldn't it? OpenAL maintains all the same functionality EAX had.

Agreed and understood. But I have yet to see a single player who has confirmed this.

(Edit) Just to clarify, re: 4-channel quadraphonic surround-sound support.
Tenantry Mar 15, 2013 @ 12:23pm 
No open gl please or it won't work on my pc :/ I can't play any source game which I not that fussed about as long as I have DOD.
BIO*Hawkeye@--™ Mar 19, 2013 @ 9:20pm 
buy a real computer its 2013. These games are over 10 years old...
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