white march 1&2 worth the buy?

[M]

hey roleplayers.

I havent heard much good about the white march. apparently its basically some maps filled with extra hard enemies, to strech gaming time. is it true?

if yes, I wont buy it. thx for replies.

[D'amarr from Darshiva]

Where have you heard that? It can only be the judgement of a hater. For someone, who likes PoE, not getting the DLC would be a mistake. It would be like playing Baldur's Gate without ever taking a look at the Icewind Dale series.

Even searching the forum for similar discussion topics turns up all those where players point out that the DLC adds a great story, nice atmosphere and interesting extras, such as soulbound weapons, increased level cap and three additional NPC companions. Yes, Pillars of Eternity is combat centric, and the DLC requires lots of fighting, too, of course, but the way the DLC is integrated into the base game, most players travel to the first expansion around level 6-8 to start the main quest a bit. The DLC contains an extra side-quest for high-level parties, but that is separate stuff - and if playing on Easy mode or Story Time, it should not be a hurdle for anyone anyway.

[M]

thx for explaining. but mentioning icewind dale, wasnt it just some maps filled with extra hard enemies, while the story was replaceable and weak? I played icewind dale 1 and 2 and I cant say it had a good story. no, it was mostly fighting.

[Armanz]

The second IWD had a solid story imho. But anyways, if you liked Pillars you're gonna love the DLCs. If there's one thing the PoE community agrees upon, it's the DLCs being really good additions to the game.

[M]

tbh, I am fighting with myself regarding liking PoE. its like a hate/love relationship. for example the fighting: if a dev puts a complex fighting system in a game, it has to be round based, IMO. cos as it is now, the artificial stupidity of my party is unbearable for me. every single party member takes most care of blocking every other party member, which results in micromanagement. and I dont like that. my other point is, that the story is 90% unimportant and replaceable.

I like a good RPG, but I have issues with PoE. I havent even finished it yet. Id probably buy the white march, when its on sale, if it adds something to the game that raises fun. Id like to read some comments from other ppl, tho.

[ColeTrain1034]

It's a pretty common consensus that White March is arguably better than the base game. I've seen many many people on these forums who don't even like the base game, but have to admit White March is a fantastic addition. I'm not sure where you've read these negative reviews, but it's likely those people were either looking to complain about something or weren't very good at the game so they blamed the game (which is all too common with PoE).

[D'amarr from Darshiva]

Αναρτήθηκε αρχικά από TheVoid:

thx for explaining. but mentioning icewind dale, wasnt it just some maps filled with extra hard enemies, while the story was replaceable and weak?

The story of Baldur's Gate 1+2 is also poor and replacable.

However, the primary reason I mention Icewind Dale when talking about The White March is the winter theme, caves and fortress dungeons to explore. Another dragon, and a clear mission objective that manages to keep player interested.

Αναρτήθηκε αρχικά από TheVoid:

I played icewind dale 1 and 2 and I cant say it had a good story. no, it was mostly fighting.

Well, you come here with a private Steam profile and an unknown personal taste.

[M]

Αναρτήθηκε αρχικά από D'amarr from Darshiva:

Well, you come here with a private Steam profile and an unknown personal taste.

I have resons for that, sorry. Im a RPGer at heart and it makes me sick to see half-hearted games. for me, its either full power or nothing at all. the witcher 3 chains me to the screen, while I have issues to even finish pillars of eternity. now you know my taste. I want quality.

[ColeTrain1034]

Αναρτήθηκε αρχικά από TheVoid:

Αναρτήθηκε αρχικά από D'amarr from Darshiva:

Well, you come here with a private Steam profile and an unknown personal taste.

I have resons for that, sorry. Im a RPGer at heart and it makes me sick to see half-hearted games. for me, its either full power or nothing at all. the witcher 3 chains me to the screen, while I have issues to even finish pillars of eternity. now you know my taste. I want quality.

I don't think you could make a more subjective remark. "Quality" is not a good indicator of what you like in a game. Comparing PoE to the Witcher series is like comparing Call of Duty to Mario Kart. They're different genres of game, all things considered.

[D'amarr from Darshiva]

Αναρτήθηκε αρχικά από ColeTrain1034:

Comparing PoE to the Witcher series is like comparing Call of Duty to Mario Kart. They're different genres of game, all things considered.

+1

Αναρτήθηκε αρχικά από TheVoid:

I have issues to even finish pillars of eternity.

That's something important which you should have mentioned in the original post.

If you don't see the quality of Pillars of Eternity, there is nothing I can do about that.

[M]

basically I was hoping, white march would add the fun thats missing in the main game. but as I dont really like the base game, I doubt now, white march will be better.

thanks for the replies.

[D'amarr from Darshiva]

Αναρτήθηκε αρχικά από TheVoid:

basically I was hoping, white march would add the fun thats missing in the main game.

Again, originally you've not mentioned that you're missing fun playing PoE.

You kinda filled in the gaps in a later post, exposing yourself as someone, who doesn't like the game because it doesn't meet your personal requirements at all.

Αναρτήθηκε αρχικά από TheVoid:

but as I dont really like the base game, I doubt now, white march will be better.

That's a false conclusion. The DLC is better, because the developers have put more love into creating it. For example, but not limited to that, the atmosphere in the village of Stalwart is better. You hear villagers talk about things. You can observe them working on something. You get pulled into completing errand boy tasks to build up reputation with them. You can travel forth and back between the expansion areas and the base game areas. However, the expansion cannot fix the base game, its story and mechanics - and if you don't like that, the DLC doesn't change that.

[M]

ok, thanks

[psychotron666]

I played part 1 and just starting part 2. Part one was pretty meh to be honest. Mostly generic quests to extend game time. And didn't make much sense role play wise why my guy is off gallavanting doing unrelated side quests in another land while I'm caught up in the storm of the main quest in the base game. I felt like it was a chore just running through enemy filled dungeons killing everything in my path mostly mindlessly.

[D'amarr from Darshiva]

Αναρτήθηκε αρχικά από psychotron666:

And didn't make much sense role play wise why my guy is off gallavanting doing unrelated side quests in another land while I'm caught up in the storm of the main quest in the base game.

Surprised?

It's not the first game where that is possible because of no quest time limits.

[Burnt_RAM_]

Αναρτήθηκε αρχικά από TheVoid:

basically I was hoping, white march would add the fun thats missing in the main game. but as I dont really like the base game, I doubt now, white march will be better.

thanks for the replies.

what makes you think youd magically love the DLC after finding the base game boring? sounds like youre forcing yourself to like the game.

its simple, if you dont like the game dont play it.