SpooDinner 14. tammi, 2013 14.43
Badly Developed
This game is so badly programmed it was a waste of money for me. My PC is not a modern gaming beast but still shoul be powerful enough to play this game with a reasonable level of performance.

It's a Quad Core 2.6Ghz Phenom II machine with 4 GB DDR2 1066 and a Radeon HD 6970 2GB. Yet it dawdles on relatively low resolutions (even 1440x900 is too high) and is glitchy as hell despite using the lowest graphics settings. It doesn't look that good either. It's a resource hog. It reminds me of how games used to be on Windows 98. This game simply does not live upto modern standards of quality. It should not even be in the steam store, it should not have been released.

I don't believe this is particularly any problem with my PC because other games run fine (yes I am running latest drivers). Borderlands 2 will happily run at very high resolutions, max settings, at 2560x1600 smoothly for prolonged periods without crashing. Sins is stable for prolonged periods even when constantly maxing out the CPU in huge games.

TLDR; this game is crap, they screwed up trying too hard to make it look good or something. I want my money back, it isn't playable.
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twig3721 14. tammi, 2013 14.49 
SpooDinner lähetti viestin:
This game simply does not live upto modern standards of quality. It should not even be in the steam store, it should not have been released.

This game looks beautiful on my system. Some of the cut scenes are a little fuzzy, but the environments are really nice. The art is one of my favorite things.

SpooDinner lähetti viestin:
I don't believe this is particularly any problem with my PC because other games run fine. Border lands 2 will happily run at very high resolutions, even 2560x1600 smoothly for prolonged periods without crashing. Sins is stable for prolongs periods even when constantly maxing out the CPU in huge games.

Ah, the magic rule of PC gaming - just because one game plays well doesn't mean another will. There are so many different system & program configurations - you never know what could be causing the game to hiccup. For example, DX:HR does have some problems with DirectX 11; you may have to force it to run DirectX 9 (this is a problem/solution that has cropped up for a few people). Saying it shouldn't have been put out just because it doesn't agree with your system is a little harsh.
SpooDinner 14. tammi, 2013 14.58 
twig3721 lähetti viestin:
SpooDinner lähetti viestin:
This game simply does not live upto modern standards of quality. It should not even be in the steam store, it should not have been released.

This game looks beautiful on my system. Some of the cut scenes are a little fuzzy, but the environments are really nice. The art is one of my favorite things.

SpooDinner lähetti viestin:
I don't believe this is particularly any problem with my PC because other games run fine. Border lands 2 will happily run at very high resolutions, even 2560x1600 smoothly for prolonged periods without crashing. Sins is stable for prolongs periods even when constantly maxing out the CPU in huge games.

Ah, the magic rule of PC gaming - just because one game plays well doesn't mean another will. There are so many different system & program configurations - you never know what could be causing the game to hiccup. For example, DX:HR does have some problems with DirectX 11; you may have to force it to run DirectX 9 (this is a problem/solution that has cropped up for a few people). Saying it shouldn't have been put out just because it doesn't agree with your system is a little harsh.

Nearly all games run well on this machine. It's Deus Ex. It just isn't programmed well. They wasted all their time trying to make it the second coming of Crysis so they could become a benchmarking suite instead of a game instead of focusing on what actually made Deus Ex fun to begin with. It's a resource hog and there is really very little benefit to it. I am telling you, the graphics are not that great and add little. If I have to spend hours tracking down problems such as Deux Ex can't use the right libraries, the programmers screwed up on that.

I'm not the only one to notice this:

http://segmentnext.com/2011/08/24/deus-ex-human-revolution-crashes-freezes-slow-loading-lag-and-fixes/

I want my money back and I want it back now. It's not fit for purpose. I have this consumer right.
twig3721 14. tammi, 2013 15.02 
Sorry it doesn't work well for you - my point was that it works well for many other people. It's obviously programmed fine for many gamers who are able to run it with no difficulties. PC gaming has always involved a certain amount of tweaking, unlike console gaming.


SpooDinner lähetti viestin:
I want my money back and I want it back now.

Steam has a general policy of no refunds. If you ask very politely (remember, they are not obligated to give you anything), they may occasionally make an exception. However, it will probably be more convincing if you show them that you've spent some time and tried the most common fixes for game issues before attempting a refund.
SpooDinner 14. tammi, 2013 15.25 
twig3721 lähetti viestin:
Sorry it doesn't work well for you - my point was that it works well for many other people. It's obviously programmed fine for many gamers who are able to run it with no difficulties. PC gaming has always involved a certain amount of tweaking, unlike console gaming.


SpooDinner lähetti viestin:
I want my money back and I want it back now.

Steam has a general policy of no refunds. If you ask very politely (remember, they are not obligated to give you anything), they may occasionally make an exception. However, it will probably be more convincing if you show them that you've spent some time and tried the most common fixes for game issues before attempting a refund.

They will have to pay me for any excessive time spent getting the faulty product they distribute working. It's not for me to manually fix their bugs for them. Policy is also irrelevant. They must abide by consumer laws in the country they are selling in if they wish to continue trading in that country. That it works for some people or after hours of troubleshooting are not valid defenses. If I am not promptly refunded, I will force them to refund me via the small claims court, I will also include aditional charges for the inconvenience caused.
Jack The Rabbit™ 14. tammi, 2013 17.04 
Your specs are cute...

Even on high setings though... this games visuals suck ♥♥♥... gameplay is meh too... just started it but already irritated...
wishfire 14. tammi, 2013 18.34 
You mad, bro? My system is like 4 years old (Core2Duo + Nvidia 9800GTX) and it runs decently on medium settings (and looks great, too). Slight hiccups during certain spots but nothing too bad. Sounds like you need a new rig, bro. Good luck.

"Shouldn't have been released"

Lawlz. XD
Bearshoes 14. tammi, 2013 18.40 
SpooDinner lähetti viestin:
twig3721 lähetti viestin:
Sorry it doesn't work well for you - my point was that it works well for many other people. It's obviously programmed fine for many gamers who are able to run it with no difficulties. PC gaming has always involved a certain amount of tweaking, unlike console gaming.


SpooDinner lähetti viestin:
I want my money back and I want it back now.

Steam has a general policy of no refunds. If you ask very politely (remember, they are not obligated to give you anything), they may occasionally make an exception. However, it will probably be more convincing if you show them that you've spent some time and tried the most common fixes for game issues before attempting a refund.

They will have to pay me for any excessive time spent getting the faulty product they distribute working. It's not for me to manually fix their bugs for them. Policy is also irrelevant. They must abide by consumer laws in the country they are selling in if they wish to continue trading in that country. That it works for some people or after hours of troubleshooting are not valid defenses. If I am not promptly refunded, I will force them to refund me via the small claims court, I will also include aditional charges for the inconvenience caused.

You should read the agreement that you checked yes to when you signed up for a steam account and bought this game.
Andre_2FL 14. tammi, 2013 20.00 
I agree with Bearhoes here. You should actually read the EULA for Steam... >:[ basically one voids many rights...
Tricks 15. tammi, 2013 9.53 
runs smooth on ati 4850 (yes 4) & 3.2Ghz dual @1440x900 no AA DX9 could probably easy go 1680x1050 but I like a bit of fake AA from the underscale

but one thing.. I don't know if this is what you are talking about, but in the 1st open world area if I look in ceratin directions the fps drops to like 3 or 4, then when I look away from that spot it goes silky smooth again, I think one spot is outside the police station and looking left, or maybe it was outside the sarif building

I think the draw distance could be set too high and it is rendering stuff I can't even see behind apartment blokcs etc, so yeah that aspect may be badly coded, the China open world doesn't have this problem though which is strange, and the 'instanced missions' are really easy on the GPU as they are usually indoors or in small areas

where are you slow? in the 1st open world or everywhere?
SpooDinner 15. tammi, 2013 14.26 
Bearshoes lähetti viestin:
SpooDinner lähetti viestin:
twig3721 lähetti viestin:
Sorry it doesn't work well for you - my point was that it works well for many other people. It's obviously programmed fine for many gamers who are able to run it with no difficulties. PC gaming has always involved a certain amount of tweaking, unlike console gaming.


SpooDinner lähetti viestin:
I want my money back and I want it back now.

Steam has a general policy of no refunds. If you ask very politely (remember, they are not obligated to give you anything), they may occasionally make an exception. However, it will probably be more convincing if you show them that you've spent some time and tried the most common fixes for game issues before attempting a refund.

They will have to pay me for any excessive time spent getting the faulty product they distribute working. It's not for me to manually fix their bugs for them. Policy is also irrelevant. They must abide by consumer laws in the country they are selling in if they wish to continue trading in that country. That it works for some people or after hours of troubleshooting are not valid defenses. If I am not promptly refunded, I will force them to refund me via the small claims court, I will also include aditional charges for the inconvenience caused.

You should read the agreement that you checked yes to when you signed up for a steam account and bought this game.

Agreements can't take away consumer rights. They can put anything in their agreement, doesn't mean the law will accept it.
SpooDinner 15. tammi, 2013 14.33 
Tricks lähetti viestin:
runs smooth on ati 4850 (yes 4) & 3.2Ghz dual @1440x900 no AA DX9 could probably easy go 1680x1050 but I like a bit of fake AA from the underscale

but one thing.. I don't know if this is what you are talking about, but in the 1st open world area if I look in ceratin directions the fps drops to like 3 or 4, then when I look away from that spot it goes silky smooth again, I think one spot is outside the police station and looking left, or maybe it was outside the sarif building

I think the draw distance could be set too high and it is rendering stuff I can't even see behind apartment blokcs etc, so yeah that aspect may be badly coded, the China open world doesn't have this problem though which is strange, and the 'instanced missions' are really easy on the GPU as they are usually indoors or in small areas

where are you slow? in the 1st open world or everywhere?

Anywhere outside (including looking out of a window) definitely causes problems. It also happens in other places as well (I believe it may render anything behind movable objects). It is no wonder that the game focuses so much on non-lethal and sneaking around. You can't have any decent action when it could drop to 1FPS at any moment.
Bearshoes 15. tammi, 2013 15.14 
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twig3721 lähetti viestin:
Sorry it doesn't work well for you - my point was that it works well for many other people. It's obviously programmed fine for many gamers who are able to run it with no difficulties. PC gaming has always involved a certain amount of tweaking, unlike console gaming.


SpooDinner lähetti viestin:
I want my money back and I want it back now.

Steam has a general policy of no refunds. If you ask very politely (remember, they are not obligated to give you anything), they may occasionally make an exception. However, it will probably be more convincing if you show them that you've spent some time and tried the most common fixes for game issues before attempting a refund.

They will have to pay me for any excessive time spent getting the faulty product they distribute working. It's not for me to manually fix their bugs for them. Policy is also irrelevant. They must abide by consumer laws in the country they are selling in if they wish to continue trading in that country. That it works for some people or after hours of troubleshooting are not valid defenses. If I am not promptly refunded, I will force them to refund me via the small claims court, I will also include aditional charges for the inconvenience caused.

You should read the agreement that you checked yes to when you signed up for a steam account and bought this game.

Agreements can't take away consumer rights. They can put anything in their agreement, doesn't mean the law will accept it.
It is to my understanding that a company can deny refunds any time they'd like. He wasn't scammed. You can't charge a company for inconvieniences either. The fact that OP wanted to bring court into play over a game that is only but $20 is ridiculous.
Westenra 15. tammi, 2013 22.30 
This is one of the best games of the last 20 years, you sir have no ground to stand on. You're not going to sue anyone, you're not taking anyone to court and you're certainly not fooling anyone with your puffed up butthurt teenager attitude. Sorry you don't know enough about computers to get it to run, that's your problem, not the developers. Too bad though, you're really missing out on a great game.
mbutton15 16. tammi, 2013 6.01 
I have a 4 year old PC that is a Quad Core AMD Phemon 9550 2.2 Ghz machine with 4GB RAM. I used to have an NVIDIA 8600GT graphics card, but it broke so now it's just using it's embedded ATI HD3200 (with 256 RAM) - yeah I know, I should really get a new card !!

Anyway, I run this game on 800x600, with min graphics level and it seems fine to me. I'm playing the 'shoot to kill' option and the only problem I have had is a few crashes around the basketball court area.

I really like this game and am up to around 40hrs playing time now and only just about to reach to 2nd Boss battle !! Although I'm playing shoot to kill I am still quite stealthy but not experienced any real glitches, apart from the basketball issue mentioned above.
Stevejan 16. tammi, 2013 10.31 
Ive just built a new pc comprising a i5 3570k /asus mobo/8gb ram. Anyway my point is i havent yet changed my graphics card. I currently have a GTX 285 (ancient) and i run this game maxed out at 1440x900 and its beautifully smooth. The game ISNT faulty. If you stop moaning and explore your machine settings im sure you'll find a solution. Has someone said above DX 11 is a little buggy,use DX 9 instead.
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