Seanobi Jan 8, 2014 @ 7:44am
Default characters better than creating them?
I have played Wasteland many years ago, even though I never got far in it. Recently seeing this on Steam, I HAD to get it. Anyway, the default characters start out with some weapons, ammo, and a few other things. Their stats aren't too bad either I guess. But when creating your own unique roster of characters, you start out with nothing. This makes the game much harder in my opinion, as I didn't find any guns, or any other type of weapons except my fists. So automatically I decided to put skill points into brawling during the character creation. Needless to say, I was still getting my butt kicked.

Is it me, or is it a much harder start when creating your own roster? And for default characters, concerning their skill sets, are those any good to be able to play through the game with? I'm also wondering if the original character roster will be set in the story and/or lore of Wasteland 2. That would be awesome if so.

Please apply your thoughts and opinions. Oh, and stay out of those hot radioactive areas.
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Cutlass Jack Jan 8, 2014 @ 9:16am 
(edit: meh, stupid me. Wrote my original response thinking it was Wasteland 2. Lets try again.)

Yes default characters start with gear. However, you can strip them naked, then remove them from the group and put their gear on your own created characters.

And you'll be happy to know that default group is in Wasteland 2. I'll avoid spoilers but you'll meet a few of them very early and hear rumors about the others.
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๖ۣۜRevolucas Jan 12, 2014 @ 6:28am 
The default characters actually suck. Create your own team using the Per Jorner's guide:

Just read the Character Creation and Preparation sections to avoid spoilers.

Some of the default characters from Wasteland 1 do make an appearance in Wasteland 2. Vargas, for example, is General of the Desert Rangers.

Brawling is pretty OP in Wasteland 1. Makes the game a ton easier.
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Seanobi Jan 20, 2014 @ 12:31am 
Thanks for the input, guys :)
magelord01 Jun 1, 2014 @ 8:58am 
You can just give every character you creat in "Wastland 1" 2 points in Brawling, and you're good to go! You see, over time, skills (including Brawling) will go up as you use them! So before you know it, your characters' Brawling skills will be Level 4 or more! What Brawling does are two things: 1. It increases the number of melee attacks a character can do per round (specifically: for every 2 points in Brawling, the character's number of attacks goes up by 1); and 2. It improves your character's accuracy with most melee weapons, with two exceptions: the knife (which needs the Knife Fight skill) and unarmed combat (which needs the Pugilism skill).
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anon8431 Jun 27, 2014 @ 9:19pm 
Originally posted by magelord01:
You see, over time, skills (including Brawling) will go up as you use them!

This doesn't seem to happen in WL2, which is (for me) a huge turn off of it. Changes the fundamental game dynamics in a huge non-positive way (for me). :(
Dragoon Jun 28, 2014 @ 11:55pm 
Check out this guide for help to create characters and what skills to avoid.
magelord01 Nov 20, 2014 @ 7:02pm 
You may want to consider playing this game with the Original Four (Snake Vargas, Thrasher, Angela Deth, and Hell Razor) simply because according to "Wasteland 2", it was those four Rangers who actually performed the mission in the original "Wasteland". Besides, those characters ARE well-rounded; and can potentially see you through to the end of the game! "Snake" Vargas, for example, is known as General Vargas in "Wasteland 2"!
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anon8431 Nov 21, 2014 @ 11:38am 
Sadly, I find WL2 very boring, and not really in the spirit of WL1. I still like WL1 a lot though. ;)
Psst! Nov 27, 2014 @ 9:59pm 
the original four pre-canned characters were kinda 'meh'. with a little patience and some luck you could generate much stronger set of players and the difference would really show in play.

the only distinction in attributes that mattered was strength for a bruiser and a 'leader' character with high dexterity (for long-range accuracy). everyone needed a minimum in brains and MAXCON. the only "balance" that entered play was how you allocated non-combat skills. ('cause everyone needed assault rifles and energy weapons.)
Winter Wolf Dec 22, 2014 @ 9:02pm 
Really frustrated with the UI in WL 1 so far though I have played many games from that era (including the bards tale series which on the surface seems to use the same UI, but doesn't suck quite so much.) Started out trying to create my own party. No, the party is full. Tried to delete characters. No go. Just static sound instead of anything rational from my speakers. None of the hotkeys I could remember worked (though to be fair we are talking 25 years ago.)

Finally managed to get the game into windowed mode (by accident after having a bit of a hissy fit with the keyboard) and then somehow the keys worked. Not happy with this, that I spent 3k or so gems on a game that doesn't seem to be playable. (Yes, not a lot compared to some games but still, that was a few bucks for me.)

Would be nice if the built in Dos Box gave some idea of the UI before you enter the game itself. And would also be nice if the game didn't autostart in full screen mode. I guess I will do some googling to see what manuals are out there for this.

Even finding and reading the manual did not help with the abysmal UI. Will be deleting this horrible waste of space/time/money. Sad because I was looking forward to it being that I love this kind of game (in theory) and two big T&T names were involved with its design (Mike Stackpole and Kevin St Andre.)
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anon8431 Dec 24, 2014 @ 9:12am 
@Winter Wolf - That's weird about the sound. Did you manage to figure out why it's static instead of "proper" DOS era sound effects? It worked on my Mac, though I haven't tried it out on the Win 8.1 PC I'm on atm. (might try later)

Which OS are you using, in case that makes a difference with the DOS box?
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