The Talos Principle

The Talos Principle

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a52 Jan 1 @ 6:07pm
Do any stars require entering the Tower?
I'm trying to 100% the game before I enter the Tower or Elohim's doorway, but now that I have almost all the stars, I'm starting to worry that some of them might be in the Tower itself. There're two stars that I don't know the location of and I'm also worried that the connectors needed for the hub world star might be somewhere in/on the Tower.

I don't want to enter the Tower to check, because I want to end the game when I'm ready, and if the stars aren't there, I'll have ended it too early. I also don't want to look up a walkthrough because I want to figure things out (mostly) on my own.

Can somebody who has gotten all the non-level stars let me know if I need to enter the Tower to get some of them?

(Please try not to spoil anything about either the puzzles or the story)
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MASTAN Jan 1 @ 6:35pm 
You won't need start all at once, you'll need them in portions so to say. Also the point of no return is behind putting last star, so you won't lose anything by entering. Except maybe some achievement condition.
a52 Jan 1 @ 7:43pm 
Wait, are you saying that the Tower is required to get all the stars, or getting all the stars is required to go up the Tower?
MASTAN Jan 1 @ 9:58pm 
The tower has several floors. You won't reach the end until finding last star, but you still can climb some of them.
There is indeed a star in the tower.
Nea Jan 2 @ 11:54am 
There is a star in the Tower. You'll know when it's too late to turn back, so make progress in the tower if you want, and go back to hunt for stars before climbing to the very top of the tower.
a52 Jan 2 @ 2:50pm 
Thanks, Nea, that helps.
Nea Jan 3 @ 3:38pm 
No problem. Happy star hunting, homestuck guy.
Not only is there a star in the tower, you'll need to use stuff in the tower to access a second star.

Now here's a thought I've had:

We all know ELOHIM doesn't want us to climb the tower, and supposedly it has always been this way. Sheep also claims that he's making a bold move in ascending the tower, along with The Shepherd, and it becomes particularly notable once we get to the 4th and 5th floors. But what about all those blessed messengers? Did they really go up the tower to get the star there, or were they able to become blessed messengers all the while being able to avoid the tower altogether, perhaps because the Garden was in an earlier state (possibly requiring fewer stars or relocated ones)?

Quick philosophical version: should becoming a blessed messenger, in line with a part of ELOHIM's wishes, mean defying him temporarily? And if so, why? If not, why not? (Milton wanted me to pose this last question for you).


This game is not only rich in texts, but also has lots of huge potential for discussion. Yet I haven't seen many of the threads on these forums talk about such things.
a52 Jan 8 @ 7:41pm 
Related to p0rtalmaster's thoughts: I found a surprising message on floor 5(?) of the tower:
Fortes fortuna adiuvat (Fortune favors the brave) -Uriel

Uriel is the lead messenger of ELOHIM, what's he doing up here?
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HDNA Jan 10 @ 12:01pm 
Originally posted by Spades Slick:
Related to p0rtalmaster's thoughts: I found a surprising message on floor 5(?) of the tower:
Fortes fortuna adiuvat (Fortune favors the brave) -Uriel

Uriel is the lead messenger of ELOHIM, what's he doing up here?

if you found a message from uriel then that means there's a star nearby
Originally posted by Spades Slick:
Related to p0rtalmaster's thoughts: I found a surprising message on floor 5(?) of the tower:
Fortes fortuna adiuvat (Fortune favors the brave) -Uriel

Uriel is the lead messenger of ELOHIM, what's he doing up here?
I personally think that a Messenger who defies ELOHIM and climbs so far up the tower that it's essentially clear that ELOHIM is full of baked air yet still goes back down to help those that will come after it is more valuable than, essentially, a slave who simply does as they're told. Maybe that's why Uriel was up there and ended coming back down.
Nea Jan 13 @ 7:58am 
You can climb the Tower as far as the very last flight of stairs and still decide to turn back if you want. It's obviously what Uriel did, and his motivation could be anything, even no better that your own if you got said ending yourself.

And I agree with p0rtalmaster, there should be a lot of more theory discussion about this game.
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