Crit. chance affects on magic?

[Neuromaniac]

I'm curious

[myhr2]

No, spells cannot crit.

[Neuromaniac]

For a sec I thought it does. What a pity :)

Then how about Mage Blade Purgatory?

[Fuinril]

Originally posted by Neuro:

For a sec I thought it does. What a pity :)

Then how about Mage Blade Purgatory?

It crits. Mage blade purgatory is a standard attack that does magic damage. A spell cannot crit, even if it does physical damage (which does not exists in this game I think), an attack yes.

Oh and before you ask, the heavy attack of Gilda is a spell, so it does not crit (but her base attack is a mix of physical and magical damage which crit)

[Neuromaniac]

Uhm.... does magic damage based on attack points or magic points?

Well yes, I thought crit works only for physical attacks, but description didn't say it works ONLY for physical. That's why I'm asking :)

oh, and what about attacks enchanted with magic (like Fire Brand etc)? It crits atk damage only or ark+mag damage?

Originally posted by Fuinril:

the heavy attack of Gilda is a spell

I have noticed.... =.=

[BoswerLK]

only phys damage can get crit multipliers

mage blade can crit, and magic buffed attacks can crit, but the magic damage won't increase. it's just for procing on crit effects, like warp blade


magic damage is based on magic

[MimicMachine]

Originally posted by Fuinril:

Originally posted by Neuro:

For a sec I thought it does. What a pity :)

Then how about Mage Blade Purgatory?

It crits. Mage blade purgatory is a standard attack that does magic damage. A spell cannot crit, even if it does physical damage (which does not exists in this game I think), an attack yes.

Oh and before you ask, the heavy attack of Gilda is a spell, so it does not crit (but her base attack is a mix of physical and magical damage which crit)

magic weapon isn't exactly magic damage it is an attack that uses the magic stat for damage instead of attack stat. not sure exactly on wyatt's light weapon (has magic weapon light) but it should still crit and maybe be physical with light attribute added like vlad's arm with void.

[Neuromaniac]

k, I think I got it, thanks everyone ^_^

[Neuromaniac]

Now this is weird.
While throwing Arctic Javelin into Feral Hermit I have noticed it's inflict random damage (like 26 and 39 or 32 and 48 few level-ups later). Even at the same creature.
What is that supposed to be if it's not a crit?

[MimicMachine]

Originally posted by Neuro:

Now this is weird.
While throwing Arctic Javelin into Feral Hermit I have noticed it's inflict random damage (like 26 and 39 or 32 and 48 few level-ups later). Even at the same creature.
What is that supposed to be if it's not a crit?

ice magic has some damage alterations, mainly against frozen targets (even if that spell froze the target) you'll usually see a burst of icicles. frozen targets also take more damage.

also check this post on the forum " combo/damage guide completed " for more in depth damage.

[Neuromaniac]

Read it once more and read it carefully. I said nothing about burst of ice or frozen targets. Just a regular Arctic Javelin. End of story. If you don't know, then don't tell me check something in somewhere. =.=

[MimicMachine]

Originally posted by Neuro:

Read it once more and read it carefully. I said nothing about burst of ice or frozen targets. Just a regular Arctic Javelin. End of story. If you don't know, then don't tell me check something in somewhere. =.=

I was just saying to check for how magic damage is done, but the burst of ice thing is true, the spell itself tells you it shatters on frozen targets in its description (the burst that deals more damage). the shatter deals way more damage.

the guide is to tell you how damage is calculated so if you think spells crit than that will say, it has every source of damage and how it is done. every source, spell, weapon and others.

Edit: what is your equipment and weapon? it does matter.

edit 2: backstab (attacking an enemy from behind not skills called that) does apply to most spells, certain characters and weapons (Vlad and raven bow) deal extra damage for backstabs. did double check this for you.

[Neuromaniac]

Originally posted by cuuubes:

Edit: what is your equipment and weapon? it does matter.

http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=484358306
=.=

[MimicMachine]

thank you for the info.

still I know spells cannot crit but there are several things (skills from skill trees, weapons, armor, back attacks, ect) that double magic damage (some damage has a slight variation but it is consistant and close unless something else interferes).

in your case I can only think of skills you got, down demon lord's soul, back attacks, the shatter effect or really increasing light affinity.
since you seem to not have the 4th thing and Wyatt's skills don't do something like temp magic buffs then it could only be the following

down dark buff (wyatt's starting dark magic)
back attacks (really easy to do and I'm pretty sure its this one)
or if you are somehow extremly change your affinity (really doubt it is this).

[Neuromaniac]

Light affinity at the moment - 15 is max, no Black Hand (down dark buff) in use and forget about shatter – with Afflict 0% I can't even freeze anyone :)
magical backstab? probably, yes – I never trying to do even normal backstab (except angel templar) and the fact that you see no difference between that Feral's face and аss if also confusing. So yes, must be magical backstab %)

Originally posted by cuuubes:

the 4th thing

What's that?

[BoswerLK]

Originally posted by Neuro:

Now this is weird.
While throwing Arctic Javelin into Feral Hermit I have noticed it's inflict random damage (like 26 and 39 or 32 and 48 few level-ups later). Even at the same creature.
What is that supposed to be if it's not a crit?

you backstabbed it, which gives a 1.5x multiplier as wyatt. 2.5x if you have dagger equipped