LalyTheShiro Jun 22 @ 2:30pm
Still nobody cares about quests. Meta idea
"Quests + LoL = Soada in beta"
People not doing quests? Yes they do it (rarely) if lane is pushed,fed up,trying out (new player).
The "jungler" should be an Adventurer (based on the items name) whose job is to farm the jungle,try to gank at the first 8 min then BOOOM QUEST QUEST QUEST!!!
Later then specialize to carry,support (i can imagine 2 jungler with 1-1-1 lanes too based on the first quests on both side)

There should be a ranking for quests example

1, Easy (Early game) The veric plague,Raise your Gryphon,(and maybe Necromancer's Bargain too)

These are appering on top and bot jungle too so players dont need to move far away from their original lane.->"Who cares,I like this lane minions and the enemy is having troubles defending his tower!" -> "Ring Ring 7:30 Tea time no lane minions until 10min(or until the quest is complated)"
Winning team get advantage and buffs - Losing one have to play more defensive

2, Medium (Mid game) Tower Siege,Path to Ascention,Divine lost army,(Necromancer's Bargain)

You get some tower?Ganked sucessfully the enemy? You teleported back for your boots,staffs,swords? Let's round 2 begin at 17:30 min its dinner time so no lane minions spawn until 21min (or until the quest is complated)
In these players have to leave their own "side" and wander around the enemy's one with their builds and fight each other (killing enemy's courier,knight(from Divine lost army) etc.
You won? Push like a madman until the buff dissapear!
You lost? Defend as much you can.

3,Hard (Late game) Troll's treasure,Valkryn's Watch

Are you getting your final build?Lost your tower? Its time for more QUEST QUEST QUEST so team up and play like the pros. 27:30 good evening soliders!
First there should be the Valkryn's Watch or the Troll at 28min which gives the player the scouting falcon thingy or 800gold(should be buffed from 500 imo ;D) (=Lategame scouting? OP, 800 gold #opweaponsincoming) then lane minions coming back until 35 min when....

4, Dragon Slayer

Your towers fallen down?You got some final items?You realized its a teamgame? So its time for the Draaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaagon~!RAAAAAAAAAAAAAAWR the soliders are scared and playing Monopoly in the castle! They wont spawn until you killed the dragon or they finished with the monopoly which is 5 hour (which is 5min ingame) then its all settled down , lurk like a team , defend like a team , fight like a team , and play like a team!
Lane minions coming back and the 2nd Hard quest is starting at 45min..

Huhh it took me like 50min to write these ideas down... this is basicly a "quest oriented moba" So there will be less quests (except extreme long games) but they given randomly (except the dragon)

EasyA->MediumA->HardA->Drag->HardB->MediumB->EasyB->....

If you read this whole thing ,you deserves an award :D
Looking forward for answers,ideas etc etc!


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Exorcised Jun 23 @ 6:38pm 
Originally posted by LalyTheShiro:
"Quests + LoL = Soada in beta"
People not doing quests? Yes they do it (rarely) if lane is pushed,fed up,trying out (new player).
The "jungler" should be an Adventurer (based on the items name) whose job is to farm the jungle,try to gank at the first 8 min then BOOOM QUEST QUEST QUEST!!!
Later then specialize to carry,support (i can imagine 2 jungler with 1-1-1 lanes too based on the first quests on both side)


It goes to illustrate how knowledgeable you already are about the game balance that Blair Fraser, one of the founders of the company, stated himself that they're trying to change the metagame for the jungler until he becomes an essential part of Realm Quest completion, and not just some poor sucker wandering around alone in the forest waiting for ganks and the occasional veric pelt.

Originally posted by LalyTheShiro:
There should be a ranking for quests example

Again, your psychic powers are revealed in full form! There is indeed a pseudo-random "Quest Master" that decides what type of Quest to complete and when. However, I feel like having Quests in the same static order would get just a tad boring, because sometimes you want to throw a tough quest at a slightly underpowered team to see if they are willing to work with the enemy team before they start working against them ;D

Also, it might be a bit early to make the Dragon a staple of the "toughest" quest spot, because I'm not too sure what other kinds of quests Ironclad has in store for us yet ^^
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LalyTheShiro Jun 24 @ 7:22am 
Originally posted by Exorcised:
Originally posted by LalyTheShiro:
"Quests + LoL = Soada in beta"
People not doing quests? Yes they do it (rarely) if lane is pushed,fed up,trying out (new player).
The "jungler" should be an Adventurer (based on the items name) whose job is to farm the jungle,try to gank at the first 8 min then BOOOM QUEST QUEST QUEST!!!
Later then specialize to carry,support (i can imagine 2 jungler with 1-1-1 lanes too based on the first quests on both side)


It goes to illustrate how knowledgeable you already are about the game balance that Blair Fraser, one of the founders of the company, stated himself that they're trying to change the metagame for the jungler until he becomes an essential part of Realm Quest completion, and not just some poor sucker wandering around alone in the forest waiting for ganks and the occasional veric pelt.

Originally posted by LalyTheShiro:
There should be a ranking for quests example

Again, your psychic powers are revealed in full form! There is indeed a pseudo-random "Quest Master" that decides what type of Quest to complete and when. However, I feel like having Quests in the same static order would get just a tad boring, because sometimes you want to throw a tough quest at a slightly underpowered team to see if they are willing to work with the enemy team before they start working against them ;D

Also, it might be a bit early to make the Dragon a staple of the "toughest" quest spot, because I'm not too sure what other kinds of quests Ironclad has in store for us yet ^^

So there will be less quests (except extreme long games) but they given randomly (except the dragon)

I meant here that less quest in 1 match.

EasyA->MediumA->HardA->Drag->HardB->MediumB->EasyB->....

I see you dont get this little "chart" here. The Easy,Medium,Hard quests would be randomed.
But im happy about somebody actually read it. :D

Btw what's your opinion about taking out the 7:30 lane spawn (which lane arrives at 8min(when the quest start)) to force the players to do the quest?

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