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[ABL]Black Rain Feb 15 @ 12:28pm
adition features coming soon, how long after relese...
I preordered game becouse i wanted to expirience wh40k turn base, hoever while i found core components to be good (just good not excelent, not bad just good) and spend abaut 15 houers in game i decided to make break cose of the lack of the most importent features for me. To be honest i was not intrested in the main story campaning. I really wanted to see promised squad customization, coop and level editor with comunity workshop.

Now i will not scream abaut status change of workshop in faq from definitly be there - to - oh wait huston we have a problem.... but if i am to be honest, i am alitle bit frustrated that after opening game today, few months after last time i played, quite some time after relese i still do not have coop, map creator, and customization. I am not going to blame you guys, but i just wanted you to know that i feel alitle bit disipointed and sad that after charging 20 euro (if i remember corectly) for clearly unfinished game, you are unable to put promised features after 7 months from initial relese (it was 7 months right?).

Now do not get it wrong. I like the game, damn i even defended it during one of wh40k games discusions, and i like your comunity contact (something that teltele culd learn from you) you spend times reapering bugs (thats quite big +, especialy since few first big updates came during first month from relese, thats quite acomplishment). BUT, on the other heand those bugs shuldent be there... now i get it, it may heapen, especialy in age of bugy releses, hoever 7 months after premiere, i still do not have even the most basic character customization...
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VigorousSnow Feb 15 @ 1:05pm 
It's coming, just be patient.

Take this time to straighten up your spelling issues.
[ABL]Black Rain Feb 15 @ 1:26pm 
I am so bad in speaking (and writing) english, sory for that. But here is the thing, i am tired of evryone telling coming soon (recent expirience with the wolf among us did not helped) i just want to know can i expect update in this year.... as i sayed i like the game, but they culd just add 1 of those things insted of put dlc after dlc
jaygoneferal Feb 15 @ 1:29pm 
According to the developers, co-op and the level editor are a niche market... after they took your money. Take a number and get in line. Welcome to the club.
[ABL]Black Rain Feb 15 @ 1:35pm 
Well i do not mind them implementing features later, since they sayed clearly what is going to be in initial relese and they are going to add coop editor and custmization. What i have problem is as i sayed, 7 months have pased and none of this is implemented. Also relesing game in more of an beta stage (no content wise, but bug and lack of optimization, also some terible bullet efects, that i am nut sure if they made any beter).

But i can get over it, if they only decided to, you know, give players anything. How hard it is to conecnetraide on doing level edytor. You culd argue thats becouse of the fact that they needed to get money from dlc map packs. Ok i do not like this but its posible, why wont they give some character customization then. Its not that big of deal, add some cosmetics, name changer wihout even changing weapon (since it wuld messed up mission balancing) or something like this.
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datguy13 Feb 15 @ 4:59pm 
Originally posted by jaygoneferal:
According to the developers, co-op and the level editor are a niche market... after they took your money. Take a number and get in line. Welcome to the club.

This is a blatant lie. I'm the one who repeatedly said those features are a niche market, and at no point have I ever claimed to represent Full Control or the developers of this game.



Originally posted by ABLBlack Rain:
I am so bad in speaking (and writing) english, sory for that. But here is the thing, i am tired of evryone telling coming soon (recent expirience with the wolf among us did not helped) i just want to know can i expect update in this year.... as i sayed i like the game, but they culd just add 1 of those things insted of put dlc after dlc

Fixing various bugs set the development of the features you want back. Full Control is a small company with a much smaller manpower pool than many companies have. They're trying to work n and release these features as they are able, and they do keep us appraised of when they're getting close. Check the 2014 Roadmap thread for various comments and updates which might make you feel a little more confident of their intent and progression.
Ruin Feb 15 @ 5:53pm 
Originally posted by jaygoneferal:
According to the developers, co-op and the level editor are a niche market... after they took your money. Take a number and get in line. Welcome to the club.

And none of us forked over our money at gunpoint... There was no timeline for when any of the aforementioned features would be introduced, only that FC planed to introduce them in the future...
drapeaux Feb 15 @ 6:31pm 
Whatever Guys, at least we all agree we love the game. I had the original on the Sinclair and it's great these Guys have run an updated version. Look forward to the next add-on "FC" will happily fork out for another pack of missions
drake_hound Feb 16 @ 4:28pm 
Unfinished :P it is spacehulk the board game . it is done the rest is DLC work .
At first was dissapointed but basically , they did a 1 on 1 translation of the board game .

Sadly majority of us wish there was more , doesn´t mean the game is flawed .
Wishes and what the game is , took me a while to reconsile .
But sadly it is space hulk , with all the flaws and merits .

Wish they would have done Necromunda instead , I could play that one forever :P
against the AI , space hulk sadly am bored of it .
Schnittertm Feb 16 @ 9:14pm 
Originally posted by drake_hound:
Unfinished :P it is spacehulk the board game . it is done the rest is DLC work .
At first was dissapointed but basically , they did a 1 on 1 translation of the board game .

Sadly majority of us wish there was more , doesn´t mean the game is flawed .
Wishes and what the game is , took me a while to reconsile .
But sadly it is space hulk , with all the flaws and merits .

Wish they would have done Necromunda instead , I could play that one forever :P
against the AI , space hulk sadly am bored of it .

No, they did a translation as best as they could, considering that it needs to have a certain flow as a digitalized board game and needs to move along in both multi- as well as single player modes, but not a 1 to 1. Examples being the CP usage in the enemy turn, that is automated and out of the SM players control. While it certainly is true that CP's would mostly be used to unjam weapons, I still would at least have liked to control who of the battle brothers under my command does so and who does not.

Jammed weapons are not unjammed as by the rules at the end of the genestealers phase. Models can do actions not only one after the other, but also intermittendly, e.g. I move Lorenzo back a square, have Zael fire his flamer and then have Lorenzo move back in his original square. This is not possible in the board game, as the rules say, after you've done actions with one model in a round and moved on to the next, you can not use that model again, unless you spend CP. Here you can use AP in a way, you couldn't in the board game.

In certain missions, conditions do not exactly match the description in the original mission book, examples here being mission II (Exterminate) and V (Alarm Call) where the facing of placed or awakened models can be chosen by the player and is not predetermined by the game.

So, you see, some of the rules have been changed or adjusted to be more in line with the rules of a video game, instead of a board game.

All of this, however, doesn't change the fact, that a) you can create your own maps/missions in the board game and b) that this feature was announced as being something that was going to be implemented. As long as this feature is missing, the game feels somewhat incomplete.

Doesn't change the fact that I still enjoy the game.

drake_hound Feb 16 @ 10:24pm 
Well I think it is done , since unless more things are altered to fit the video game.
It is basically the same stuff over and over again .

Same as the board game . so waiting for wolf of fenris to see if it is going to remain the same.
If so guess I am done will go play alien assault .
Who atleast expanded on the basic game , instead of staying put .
Basically tot for tat little things , ain´t going to bring in new players .
Steam sales brings in more sales or players but how many gotten bored again ?

The things you mention can be modded in , since basic frame work is already there .
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Ruin Feb 17 @ 2:27am 
Originally posted by drake_hound:
Well I think it is done , since unless more things are altered to fit the video game.
It is basically the same stuff over and over again .

Same as the board game . so waiting for wolf of fenris to see if it is going to remain the same.
If so guess I am done will go play alien assault .
Who atleast expanded on the basic game , instead of staying put .
Basically tot for tat little things , ain´t going to bring in new players .
Steam sales brings in more sales or players but how many gotten bored again ?

The things you mention can be modded in , since basic frame work is already there .

FC were licensed by Games Workshop to recreate the Space Hulk boardgame... They can't deviate too much from that without the express permission from GW I'd wager and GW are very protective of their IP... Don't expect too much to change...
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rinaldop Feb 17 @ 11:47am 
Well that doesn't explain all the many types of Space Hulk games out there, including FPS versions.
[ABL]Black Rain Feb 17 @ 11:59am 
They are not space hulk or warhemmer in other words, Exterminatus must have changed name becouse GW wuld sue him, and if theu wuld try to sell game like this (with clearly space marine armor and symbolic) they wuld get sued. So yea, if you want to do wh40k game, you need to buy licens if you dont well then you have some trobles becouse of law
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rinaldop Feb 17 @ 12:37pm 
Are you saying Space Hulk: Vengeance of the Blood Angels did not get a GW license? How is that possible?
[ABL]Black Rain Feb 17 @ 12:46pm 
i am telling that most of games that were made to be space hulk clone did not get licence, i do not know which one got and which one did not
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