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Cryder Aug 17, 2013 @ 6:29am
Is controller or keyboard the easiest?
Why does absolutely everyone mention that using a controller is better and easier in every way? Is it actually this way? I used keyboard and managed just fine, even though the controls initially seem a bit clunky they are pretty genius, but I've never actually tried with a controller so I don't know.
Any opinions from someone that extensively used both?
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Bal Aug 17, 2013 @ 6:42am 
I prefer controller, but sometimes the floatyness combined with an analog stick gets me brutally murdered in an embarrasing situation.
Twinge Aug 17, 2013 @ 5:49pm 
Most experienced platform game players prefer controllers in general. They often grew up on that experience and it feels more natural to them.

Mostly just use whatever works best for you; there's advantages to both. (One unusual potential issue with keyboards to be aware of, though - some crappier keyboards, such as the one I'm using, don't accept too many inputs at the same time depending on which keys they are. So I can't get input for Up Arrow + Right Arrow + 'E' all at the same time, for example.)
VDZ Aug 17, 2013 @ 6:22pm 
It's just a matter of what you're used to. A lot of people prefer gamepads, but especially with games requiring precise controls (such as Spelunky) I just can't play with anything but keyboard.
Otterpoppins Aug 17, 2013 @ 9:21pm 
I prefer keyboard, since that's all I'm able to play it with. I dunno, I golden god Super Meat Boy with a keyboard, and when I tried to use a gamepad I felt I wasn't precise enough. It may be more comfortable overall though.

Pretty sure the majority will say gamepad, though the controls and physics are 'simple' enough to do just fine on a keyboard.
deathmachine Aug 17, 2013 @ 9:26pm 
Spelunky uses really specific areas of the keyboard (arrow keys + ZXAS), so it feels a lot like playing it with a controller. If that helps you decide. I haven't felt a lack of control playing it with a keyboard.
sfiq12 Aug 17, 2013 @ 9:57pm 
I've been playing with a controller, in my opinion it's easier
But that's kinda subjective so it depends on the person playing
L | Ultimate Aug 18, 2013 @ 11:30am 
I started on the keyboard and later switched to controller. I've found controller easier, but either way is alright for this game.
Rent a mop - Mumble Aug 18, 2013 @ 12:19pm 
Originally posted by Otterpoppins:
I golden god Super Meat Boy with a keyboard
Either you have caluses putting the toughest cave men to shame, or you are trolling.

On topic though, having a gamepad isnt that important for this game. Nice, sure, but not neccisary.
bullex Aug 18, 2013 @ 12:28pm 
Originally posted by Rent a mop:
Originally posted by Otterpoppins:
I golden god Super Meat Boy with a keyboard
Either you have caluses putting the toughest cave men to shame, or you are trolling.

On topic though, having a gamepad isnt that important for this game. Nice, sure, but not neccisary.

And I not only Golden God Super Meat boy using keyboard, but also got all achievements, including Impossible Boy (type 'Impossible Boy Iron Man' in youtube search and see for yourself :P)

And let's get back on topic - I'd say that using controller is not better, but a little bit more convenient. There are games that I prefer to play using keyboard (Meat Boy) and Spelunky works better for me while I use gamepad ( I still suck at the game btw, I've never beaten it despite spending 23 hours in it already :P)
Rent a mop - Mumble Aug 18, 2013 @ 1:00pm 
Originally posted by bullexcrements:
And I not only Golden God Super Meat boy using keyboard, but also got all achievements, including Impossible Boy (type 'Impossible Boy Iron Man' in youtube search and see for yourself :P)

And let's get back on topic - I'd say that using controller is not better, but a little bit more convenient. There are games that I prefer to play using keyboard (Meat Boy) and Spelunky works better for me while I use gamepad ( I still suck at the game btw, I've never beaten it despite spending 23 hours in it already :P)
Ok, so you say you say you are a bad gamer?... I doubt that, considering such feats. Unless you were like high on something which gave you "bullet time" or something. Thats really funny, if you are telling the truth.

But yeah, this game is more about planning than twitch movements, so needing a the most comfortable input method isnt as important as in meatboy. If you have a controller, use it, but dont go buying a controller JUST for this game.
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q335r49 Oct 7, 2013 @ 3:56pm 
I started with controller (Xbox) and switched to keyboard. I definitely prefer keyboard:

(1) This is the biggest one: back and forth is much quicker on a keyboard versus a controller. You can microadjust if you're avoiding landing on spikes, or when trying to hit a bt with the tip of a whip in a way that you can't with a controller. Think the difference between releasing thumb, moving thumb, pressing thumb versus how fast you can type adadadadadad.

(2) Having a sepearate finger on the whip / dash, for me, gives me more controll over dashing. I'm constantly holding and releasing dash and find myself playing a lot "flashiner" style, with a lot of extra, adjusting movements. It's sort of like if you're playing hockey, and you're stick handling, there are a lot of extra, unnecessary movements as you are sort of always feeling around where the puck is. It might not be a huge advantage but sort of makes the game more interesting, I feel.

(3) This isn't Super Metroid, you don't need to hold down a large number of keys at once. The only tricky part is probably running+jumping+rope, but you just have to make sure the rope is mapped somewhere easy to access. (I've never had to run-jump-bomb)

(4) It's really easy to mix up the diagonals and the horizontals on the xbox controller. The diagonal motion is almost never needed in this game. This usually isn't that important, but I've gotten killed with the teleporter countless times with the controller for this reason.

It's a platformer, so I always assumed that controller would be better. But really, the lack of a need for diagonals and the fact that you're usually not pressing more than 3 or 4 keys at once means that there is no real need for a controller. The game was designed for a keyboard, originally, which means that it usually doesn't overload it. Just after playing a few hours with the keyboard and -- I'm not getting more consistent -- but I am playing with more confidence, taking more risks (and that might be a bad thing!).

It's really cool playing with the keyboard, I definitely recommend you try it.
q335r49 Oct 7, 2013 @ 4:05pm 
By the way, you can go here --> http://www.microsoft.com/appliedsciences/content/projects/KeyboardGhostingDemo.aspx
to see whether your keyboard can handle things like jump+dash+rope+whip or something.
Twinge Oct 7, 2013 @ 4:44pm 
Originally posted by q335r49:
By the way, you can go here --> http://www.microsoft.com/appliedsciences/content/projects/KeyboardGhostingDemo.aspx
to see whether your keyboard can handle things like jump+dash+rope+whip or something.

That's a great resource, although I've painfully figured out most of my ghosting issues by trial and error already... Sine More wouldn't let me change my controls, so I was flat unable to use one of the main mechanics in the game (freezing time) because I couldn't move properly + shoot at the same time.

With my current Spelunky setup (W = jump, E = whip/action, R = bomb, Q = rope, arrows = move), I can't jump and then throw an object upward (ghosting conflict with W + E + Up Arrow) - rarely relevant, but still annoying.
jeff Oct 9, 2013 @ 10:50am 
Originally posted by q335r49:
(4) It's really easy to mix up the diagonals and the horizontals on the xbox controller. The diagonal motion is almost never needed in this game. This usually isn't that important, but I've gotten killed with the teleporter countless times with the controller for this reason.
I use diagonals all the time on keyboard:

1. When jumping onto a rope (or ladder, vine etc), I hold the relevant movement key and up at the same time, so that I grab the rope as soon as possible. It's very helpful in those vine/monkey/spike things in the jungle.

2. I like to pick stuff up by running past it and tapping down and x at the right time without releasing the movement key. This is faster and easier than stopping to pick it up.

3. Throwing objects up or down while jumping forward

4. Crawling over ledges to flip-hang onto spikes safely (pretty rare)

I've played with both keyboard and controller. Admittedly, when I first played with the controller, I was used to the keyboard, and I quickly went back to the keyboard after trying the controller. But I definitely prefer the keyboard. And one of the big reasons I prefer the keyboard is how easy and reliable the diagonals are - or to be more specific, that the up/down controls can be pressed independently of left/right.
Last edited by jeff; Oct 9, 2013 @ 10:50am
Tenshi Oct 9, 2013 @ 1:09pm 
spelunky is like 50% knowledge 40% luck and 10% skill. it doesnt really matter in this game IMHO. everyone will just use what he likes..
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