Papers, Please
Nova Magnus Oct 12, 2014 @ 2:24pm
Why to pay the rent?
Forgive me if this is s stupid/already made question (or both):
If Artstotzka is a communist state, why do you have to pay for the rent, heat and medicines?
Last edited by Nova Magnus; Oct 12, 2014 @ 2:26pm
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vgreeson Oct 12, 2014 @ 9:49pm 
It kind of went downhill after Lenin died.
Its a failed Communist state, not only do you have to pay rent and utilities but having any leftover money in your account is frowned on by most Arstotzkans.

Big brother knows best, GLORY TO ARSTOTZKA!
Nova Magnus Oct 14, 2014 @ 4:45pm 
Well, It's a pity, now that I know that is a failed state I'm feeling less patriotic toward Artstotzka
Last edited by Nova Magnus; Oct 14, 2014 @ 4:46pm
Manwith Noname Oct 17, 2014 @ 7:14pm 
Well, in that case just let any old immigrant through. My friend Jorji is really trying hard to enter, throw him a bone eh?
itsmes3 Oct 21, 2014 @ 1:42pm 
Originally posted by gts-r:
Well, It's a pity, now that I know that is a failed state I'm feeling less patriotic toward Artstotzka
Glory to new Arstotzka.
itsmes3 Oct 21, 2014 @ 1:42pm 
Originally posted by gts-r:
Well, It's a pity, now that I know that is a failed state I'm feeling less patriotic toward Artstotzka
Glory to new Arstotzka.
itsmes3 Oct 21, 2014 @ 1:42pm 
Originally posted by gts-r:
Well, It's a pity, now that I know that is a failed state I'm feeling less patriotic toward Artstotzka
Glory to new Arstotzka.
itsmes3 Oct 21, 2014 @ 1:43pm 
Originally posted by gts-r:
Well, It's a pity, now that I know that is a failed state I'm feeling less patriotic toward Artstotzka
Glory to new Arstotzka.
The Hollow Man Oct 23, 2014 @ 12:39am 
There's never been a society that existed (with any measurable degree of success) without either bartering or having some sort of note. The communist countries nominally got rid of dollars, but they instituted state-distrbituted credits/vouchers that were basically used the same way money was used.
Last edited by The Hollow Man; Oct 23, 2014 @ 12:39am
Elfblood Feb 12, 2015 @ 1:07pm 
How could someone think in a communist state the people didnt have to pay rent or medicine ?
tz...I was born in one, and of course we had to pay all the same thing, but with different currency...
dennis.danilov Feb 13, 2015 @ 12:07pm 
Uh, to put the record straight, at least according to the preamble of Soviet constitution, it was a "state of highly developed socialism moving towards communism". The mantra was reiterated for decades.

The difference being that socialism rewarded citizens for their contribution to society whereas communism WOULD BE a post-scarcity state (ding-ding, Star Trek fans in denial). Therefore communist states had fixed prices (and they often sufferred from hidden inflation, and deficits) but functioning monetary systems, and salaries; while foreing currencies were technically banned, the Soviet Ministry of Foreign Affairs ran a chain of department stores that accepted only foreign cash.

However, Soviet law replaced the term "private property" with "personal property", which you could not use to make a profit. If you used it to make a profit, you don't need it, therefore it is to be redistributed.
Last edited by dennis.danilov; Feb 14, 2015 @ 9:06am
runequester Feb 18, 2015 @ 12:53pm 
You did have to pay for housing in the USSR and GDR, though it was extremely cheap and being evicted was extremely hard.

The game is intended as a stereotype though. It's not really a simulation. It's just there to make the game interesting.
CupcakeCult Feb 19, 2015 @ 9:34am 
The game would be pretty pointless / boring without it anyway.
Half the point is that you have to make tough choices - do you let the family through despite them having bad documents, or do you buy heating for your family.
Do you let our dear Jorji in, or do you buy medicine for your wife?
Your son wants a birthday present, do you get it or do you pay rent?

If they did away with the credits, the game wouldn't present a challenge
Trader Vic Feb 21, 2015 @ 8:21am 
No. It's just a totalitarian capitalist oligarchy. Your salary depends on your productivity, and you're threatened with death, police and hunger.
Originally posted by Trader Vic:
No. It's just a totalitarian capitalist oligarchy. Your salary depends on your productivity, and you're threatened with death, police and hunger.
^ It does make the game very interesting (in a unique way)
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