Novaflare May 24, 2013 @ 1:43am
Build over ruins?
How are you supposed to rebuild your towns once they have been destroyed?

I have all these "ruins" tiles I can't get rid of. It says they have been looted and serve no purpose anymore yet I can't build over them, create a new tile or smite them (it says "can't destroy treasure site" or something like that).
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Jetlaw May 24, 2013 @ 1:56am 
During the tutorial it tells you that ruins stay like that for the rest of the game. No way to get rid of them. I believe the context is, paraphrased, "The front lines will be a smouldering wreck of ruins. That's okay. But once a building in a town is destroyed, that town's maximum possible production is now lower since you can't re-use that tile at all - So try to avoid it."
Misery May 24, 2013 @ 1:56am 
Yep, you cannot destroy those via normal means, and you cannot build on them. Important to keep in mind during the game. You can always create towns in different areas, and use land tiles to branch out if you need some more distance so you can place a new town. It also means that important buildings in a town that get lost cant be replaced in the same spot; it helps if you set aside a couple of tiles during city construction that you then dont place anything on, so that if something happens later, you can put new buildings in those slots as needed.

There is one thing that can undo building ruins though, which is the Midgard Serpent. It's one of the Norse myth tokens. Basically what it does is every turn that it's out, it'll destroy a couple of building ruins, and then it'll also destroy a couple of random other tiles (which could be anything). It'll do more of this the more cities you have. So if you have like 6 cities on each side, it can smash up a ton of ruins tiles.... but it'll also smash up a ton of NORMAL tiles. Any unit standing on a tile that the Serpent targets is killed instantly. The Serpent can even destroy obsidian tiles, so if you've got some of those on the board, they are NOT safe from the random-destruction effect.

A very useful token, that one. Just be careful about WHEN you use it.
Novaflare May 24, 2013 @ 2:01am 
OK, thanks for the help guys! I'm still playing the tutorial, I must have missed the part where it says you can't destroy them, this definitely changes things. I'll take a look at that token :D

Really enjoying this game so far, good work Arcen!
Jhonis Nov 15, 2013 @ 7:42pm 
Why did they make them undestroyable by normal means anyway?
Bacon.熏肉.[DK | Newbee] Dec 3, 2013 @ 6:24pm 
You can play the Bless token, but it use it very sparingly, as it's pretty expensive to place. It's probably best for situations in which one very critical building is destroyed and there is no more free space in the city.

If you get the Nihon DLC, you are supposed to actually use the blackened ruins to drop hamlets which give opportunities for culture points that fuel other abilities (Super Smite) or allow a cultural victory. With the DLC, one of my strategies is to make one city a siege producer city, and the other city to be a 'target' city for the other civilization. Usually the target city just produces useful base materials like stone and wood.
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