Akim 27 Ago, 2013 às 6:26
PLEASE NO RESPAWN
Omg... I am SO depressed hearing M&M X has respawn. Sorry but... that is SO WRONG!

It was THE BEST thing about epic games like World of Xeen that you could CLEAR the areas. You finished a dungeon or a forest, and it was CLEAR and quiet. You had pacified the area! It was what drove me away from Diablo, after Diablo 2 intoduced respawn, no longer giving me the heroic feeling to have *done* a place.

I REALLY passionately vividly HATE the idea of respawn in single player games.

IT SUCKS. It drains ALL feeling of having accomplished away! I killed all stuff and all is back. Meaning: I didnt make ANY change.

I really hope they take that out or make it optional.


Not happy. Not at all! And I rarely say this: but it is a clear NO BUY reason.
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Unholydonuts86 27 Ago, 2013 às 6:30 
maybe they will make it like world of xeen, where certain buildings spawn monsters and you have to destroy hem first. or like in mm6 where it took months for the respawn.
also a lot of the current players realy want respawn and the opinion of people actually taking part in an open access matters more than the opinion of people who dont own the game yet since the sugestion was made because of the in game experience of the player. you have not yet played mm10 so you dont know how respawn would add something to the game and also being able to grind more levels if you cant beat a certain dungeon
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Marcelo Sampaio 27 Ago, 2013 às 7:05 
You know ALL the MM games had respawning enemies, right?

I hope they keep the respawning enemies. Even if the zones respawn only after one year, or if you don't destroy the enemies' niches.
Jim 27 Ago, 2013 às 7:08 
Respawn is bad.

No feeling of total completion. Clearing every GRID block and every mob is what makes this game fun and true to the original series.

The point is, if something is too tough to beat, you should go find something u can kill and not just farm respawns etc.

XP, gold and item farming will make the game trivial, too easy and boring.

I have not actually experienced respawning yet. I hope this is misinformation.
Evo 27 Ago, 2013 às 7:30 
I think players ask respawn because of limitation of early access content. Players just want more. Huts with monsters or other destructible spawn points may be solution.

You may find spawn point and destroy. It can be fun part of gameplay - first you clean area one by one spawn point, then area become safe
Última alteração por Evo; 27 Ago, 2013 às 7:32
Awesome Renob (FT)ᅚᅚ 27 Ago, 2013 às 7:38 
Jim, You state, "if something is too tough to beat, go find something to kill" okay, well lets say you Killed everything in the game up to that point already. What now? Do you give up your entire save file, backtrack and rebuild your heroes because the game requires small cookie-cut abilitys to progress?

IE: look at ghosts in the current build, How would you feel if you played thru the entire area, and the only way to progress forward is killing mobs like the ghosts, Yet in order to do that you require the expert fire spell to prevent being consistantly paralyzed, Which ofc you don't have because you wanted to be another type of mage. Game over, Reroll to a point of fix.
ashi 27 Ago, 2013 às 7:40 
I also think the Xeen way was the best. If you want the enemies to respawn, don't destroy the spawn points.
Jim 27 Ago, 2013 às 7:53 
Originalmente postado por Awesome Renob (FT):
Jim, You state, "if something is too tough to beat, go find something to kill" okay, well lets say you Killed everything in the game up to that point already. What now? Do you give up your entire save file, backtrack and rebuild your heroes because the game requires small cookie-cut abilitys to progress?

IE: look at ghosts in the current build, How would you feel if you played thru the entire area, and the only way to progress forward is killing mobs like the ghosts, Yet in order to do that you require the expert fire spell to prevent being consistantly paralyzed, Which ofc you don't have because you wanted to be another type of mage. Game over, Reroll to a point of fix.

I must admit your point is somewhat valid, although I feel that if you have actually covered every possible mob and block you wouldnt have any problems at all.

Unfortunetly i can't remember how that issue was addressed in the earlier M&M games (Its been....toooo many years). I don't remember there being respawns though. Maybe only some areas like towers etc. I should have made myself clearer in that I'm really thinking about the issue of everything respawning. Everything respawning would ruin the game for me anyway.
Calandur 27 Ago, 2013 às 8:20 
Originalmente postado por Akim:
Omg... I am SO depressed hearing M&M X has respawn. Sorry but... that is SO WRONG!

It was THE BEST thing about epic games like World of Xeen that you could CLEAR the areas. You finished a dungeon or a forest, and it was CLEAR and quiet. You had pacified the area! It was what drove me away from Diablo, after Diablo 2 intoduced respawn, no longer giving me the heroic feeling to have *done* a place.

I REALLY passionately vividly HATE the idea of respawn in single player games.

IT SUCKS. It drains ALL feeling of having accomplished away! I killed all stuff and all is back. Meaning: I didnt make ANY change.

I really hope they take that out or make it optional.


Not happy. Not at all! And I rarely say this: but it is a clear NO BUY reason.

Respawn sucks aye
Marcelo Sampaio 27 Ago, 2013 às 9:15 
Originalmente postado por Jim:
Unfortunetly i can't remember how that issue was addressed in the earlier M&M games (Its been....toooo many years). I don't remember there being respawns though. Maybe only some areas like towers etc. I should have made myself clearer in that I'm really thinking about the issue of everything respawning. Everything respawning would ruin the game for me anyway.


It is basically like this (from MM3 to MM5): every area has a hut/niche/whatever that you can destroy IF you want. If you destroy it, you gain LOTS of experience and money, but that area will NEVER respawn.

On the other hand, you have the chance to NOT destroy the huts, meaning that the area will repopulate eventually (like one year later).

I think this was amazing, because could clear an entire area, then have the CHOICE to destroy the hut or not. In other words, choose if you want respawns or not.



In my opinion, respawning is good because it gives you the chance to choose IF you want to make your characters godlike or not. Gives you the chance to tackle the final boss when you are at level 150 JUST because you can, while also giving others the chance to beat the game at lower possible levels.
Última alteração por Marcelo Sampaio; 27 Ago, 2013 às 9:21
Jamers 27 Ago, 2013 às 10:27 
I posted this elsewhere, but it applies:

Some people really enjoy the combat and sense of progress and development attached to leveling; it's one of their chief pleasures in playing RPGs. I starte dway back with Dragon Quest I (Dragon Warrior in the US), and the idea that I could choose to become more powerful by battling as many enemies as I wanted to really made me look at games in a new way.

Recent games like Dragon Age Origins are great, but it left some players wanting more. I know I *enjoyed* the combat in the game, and so thought that players should be able to choose to engage in it if they want to; you spend 40 or 50 hours with a bunch of characters and get to like them along the way. You should be able to flex them and use them as you like; they're fighters and wizards, after all.

And this is especially true of a game like this, where the combat is actually fun, thoughtful and rewarding and you have to pay attention to it! The great part about this game is that fighting respawned monsters (IF you want to) is FUN! The combat is great! Some gamers will want to blow through the content and get to the next thing, others will want to linger and choose to sharpen their characters and enjoy the world they're in and the sense of progress they get from leveling. There's no reason they can't design a respawn mechanic that appeals to both.
RasterOps 27 Ago, 2013 às 10:30 
@ Marcelo +1, MM7 was my favorite in the series, no huts but

The M&M series have incorporated reasonable and sensible spawns from the beginning. They belong in the series. Only in rare cases did this bother me. For instance, if a quest is supposed to stop the dead from rising and the quest is successfully completed, then after a year the dead shouldn't rise again in that area. That example is a design flaw. It can't be that difficult to stop respawning in a target area, so either the designer missed the logic flaw or chose to ignore it.

Respawning has its purpose and yes, it has been abused, over-implemented in some games while others completely turn it off. Turning off respawning has the distinction of limiting character development, character level. But as mentioned here, gives some a sense of accomplishment.

In the real world hunting regions can be over-hunted and the population of animals decimated. When the government or activists step in and stop hunting in that region the population can return to normal levels. This scenario is not unlike respawning in the M&M series.

Shadowreaver 27 Ago, 2013 às 11:27 
As someone who played Might and magic from VI on....It HAD respawn! They would respawn over ingame years I fought and cleared areas multiple times get over it its ALWAYS been there in some form of fashion. Now IX I don't know since it was way too buggy for me to work but VI,VII,VIII all had respawning enemies.
Dunjeon 27 Ago, 2013 às 11:27 
Please keep the respawn in honor of the old school MM games. The game is good so far.
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