THM Oct 30, 2013 @ 4:40pm
Levelling in this game
The randomness of this game has made it harder for me than most people I think. I'm more than halfway through this game and my best tower is still my maxed out Wooden Tower. How early did everyone get Lightning/Dragon/Sun towers? The only rare tower I have is the Ice Tower and that does nothing if you don't have a lot of DPS to kill mobs.

My character is level 14, surely I should have more rare towers by now. I'm kind of stuck in progress. I can't do any of the maps now. Yes, even the Easy random maps are too hard. Also not at one stage was I able to do any of the Hard random maps. At what level did people stop using the Wooden Tower?
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Fon Master Ion Oct 30, 2013 @ 5:51pm 
If you can get a Stone Tower, that would be a good upgrade from Wooden Towers (until you can get a Dragon Tower).
Depending on the Stone Tower's Level (Not Rank), even an un-upgraded Stone Tower can do as much damage as a Fully Upgraded Wooden Tower (with x4 i mean).

(Note: I call Evolving Cards together, their Rank Level, so i don't confuse it with the actual card level.)

I also was in the same position, tried to keep playing story missions, then got to the part where even side missions I could barely beat. Hard Mode, yeah right, i lost quickly.

In short, getting better cards is just luck.
If you can play Easy Mode maps at least, you can get a free card after winning that.
More if you spend silver.

Hopefully you will get a better tower then.

I was around level 15 when i got a VERY Lucky on this pack:
http://steamcommunity.com/id/jedimaster80/screenshot/597016578227774797

Tower of the Sun, Dragon Tower, and Spell Amplifier.
I spent 20 Stars for a Unique Pack (3 Cards) from the store.

I think I got a Lightning Tower as my Day 5 Free Unique Card, or when i completed a boss Level.
I had the lightning Tower by (Actual) Level 7: Castle Defense.

When I leveled up level 17, I got my Lightning tower fully upgraded Rank, with level 7/25 (Almost 8/25).
(It's Level 22/25 for me now.)

It was most likely luck getting a Grand Mirror Card to upgrade it more also.


It may seem hard, and you may just want to stop playing altogether, but if you can try to tough it out, you will eventually get some better cards.

Ignore what the devs may say about "game doesn't require grinding" because it does.
You may have to spend an entire time you play to just grinding for better cards.

Also, keep in mind, the more you progress in Story Mode, the harder the side missions will be, even on lower difficulties.
So if you barely passed many of them with 1 Star, then I can see why you're having trouble.
You tried to progress through the story mode too quick (like I did.)

Keep playing various side levels (Easy or Medium, depending on what you can do), and you should gain silver to buy better cards or better cards from the "Try your luck", as well as gain Exp to level up, and upgrade talents.

If you get many dups of cards, fuse/evolve them will help you out.

I also use "Curse" as 1 of my Magic Cards (Also Maxed Out on Level).
Which does help when enemies cursed take 29.8% extra damage for 10 seconds.

Hopefully I gave you some helpful feedback.
THM Oct 30, 2013 @ 6:24pm 
Thanks. Yeah I haven't spent any of my stars in the store yet, (besides 3 stars to get the chests, which gave me very low cards). Maybe I should invest in the 3 rare cards booster. But 20 stars sounds kind of expensive. Was going to save my stars for the high level talents.

I haven't been playing long enough to get the Day 5 free card. Hopefully when I get it in a few days it will be something good. I am way past Level 7: Castle Defence. I'm upto the Level where there is a random Lightning Tower on the map with 2 points of entry.

Yes I probably rushed through the story too quick. I barely killed the 2nd boss. He was literally standing ontop of the finish point before I fired my last shot from the wooden tower.

Maybe I am not playing the game as intended. I don't buy any cards/boosters from the shop. I've only ever bought 1x 3 card booster for 270silver and 2 chests for 3 stars. I've spent all my silver on talents. I have all the talents except maybe 1 that I can buy.
Fon Master Ion Oct 30, 2013 @ 6:49pm 
The Booster Packs that cost 100 and 270, i wouldn't really bother with them.
They are just common cards that won't really help you with tower upgrades right now.

You'll need at least the Rare or Unique Cards.

I'd agree, just save your stars for Talents.
After you get all of those, then you can use any on cards.
(I still haven't gotten the 20 Star +10% Tower Attack Tallent yet.)

I also made the mistake to spend MANY stars on the 1 and 2 Star chests.

Because i wasted stars, i still haven't maxed out all talents and i'm Level 26, while on Level 17: Ritual.
I just have to wait until I either get stars as rewards for completing maps, leveling up, completing achievements for story levels, or daily award (day 4).

Currently trying to get another Dragon Tower Card so i can upgrade it's Rank to II.
(Or at the very least, another Grand Mirror.)

Another thing I forgot to add, each day, check the store for a "Special Offer" card.
Usually, you will find a card being sold there for around 500 Silver (i think it varies on the card).

I once had many days of there being a Stone Towers, which did help me max out it's Rank.
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THM Oct 30, 2013 @ 7:46pm 
Yeah the first special offer I got was for a snake card (which I bought), then I got swarm (which I didn't buy for 1000 as I read it not very good).
THM Nov 1, 2013 @ 2:38am 
FML. Just got my first 5 day unique card reward and got the Ice Tower. Argh! Of all the purple towers the game had to give me the one I already had.
Mytharox Nov 1, 2013 @ 7:53am 
I spend 20 stars on the unique pack of 3 cards as soon as I could. I got the dragon tower which really helped me through a lot of the levels. Chances that you get a good card are not that bad considering there are a bundle of good land/land air cards. My second or third bunch of 20 stars I started spending on talents. I grinded a little to get some extra stars and silver though.
THM Nov 1, 2013 @ 6:12pm 
Yeah still resisting the urge to spend all my stars. Although I have accumulated 64 stars. Just made the switch from my wood towers to stone towers as per the suggestion by Fon. I have to agree they are way better. Although they do less dmg to flying targets.

After a random level I saw a Tower of the Sun however, even after 3 picks I couldn't get it. Such bad luck I have. Sigh.
THM Nov 1, 2013 @ 6:13pm 
Just out of interest what is the highest rank you can level towers? Is Rank 3 the highest for all cards? Even unique ones?
Fon Master Ion Nov 1, 2013 @ 6:43pm 
Originally posted by THM:
Just out of interest what is the highest rank you can level towers? Is Rank 3 the highest for all cards? Even unique ones?

Yes, Rank III is the highest i've seen (Tower Card Only).

Magic Cards i found out, you can't upgrade rank, just level.

Originally posted by THM:
Yeah still resisting the urge to spend all my stars. Although I have accumulated 64 stars.

If you have 64 Stars, it may not be bad to use at least 20 just try to get some good Unique Cards.

Originally posted by THM:
Just made the switch from my wood towers to stone towers as per the suggestion by Fon.
I have to agree they are way better. Although they do less dmg to flying targets. .

Yeah, Stone Towers do -30% to Air Units.
Also, Dragon Towers do -40% to Air Units (But does do burn damage). Keep that in mind.

Originally posted by THM:
After a random level I saw a Tower of the Sun however, even after 3 picks I couldn't get it. Such bad luck I have. Sigh.

If you can get a good card (a Lightning Tower for Example), that will really help you beat some levels, to grind up some more silver, not to mention story missions.

I was glad when I got both "Tower of the Sun" and "Lightning Tower" cards.

My Lightning Tower is currently Maxed Rank (III) and Maxed Level (25/25).
Although, i didn't get the 45% Efficiency during Evolution on Towers, so they will do a little less damage.

I'm currently just farming Hard Mode for Silver and Stars, while trying to get another damn Dragon Tower.

Like I said before, don't try to rush through the story mode like I did.
Otherwise it will make it harder to continue since your cards will be too weak.
Last edited by Fon Master Ion; Nov 1, 2013 @ 6:46pm
Fon Master Ion Nov 1, 2013 @ 6:50pm 
Okay, I just reloaded the game, it game me my Day 5 Card:

http://steamcommunity.com/id/jedimaster80/screenshot/486680824499726181

The game is trolling. Too bad I already have it Rank III.
If I could give you cards, i'd give it to you. :D


If they ever made a Prime World: Defenders 2, they should let people trade cards (in-game).

With the games data being stored on the servers, they wouldn't need to worry about people cheating, and we could then help other players.
THM Nov 1, 2013 @ 8:46pm 
Originally posted by Fon Master Ion:
Okay, I just reloaded the game, it game me my Day 5 Card:

http://steamcommunity.com/id/jedimaster80/screenshot/486680824499726181

The game is trolling. Too bad I already have it Rank III.
If I could give you cards, i'd give it to you. :D

Yeah that would be sweet. I read they wanted to do multiplayer for PW:D early on but if they are going to make a PW:D2 then they probably would wait until then.
Fon Master Ion Nov 1, 2013 @ 10:01pm 
Originally posted by THM:
Originally posted by Fon Master Ion:
Okay, I just reloaded the game, it game me my Day 5 Card:

http://steamcommunity.com/id/jedimaster80/screenshot/486680824499726181

The game is trolling. Too bad I already have it Rank III.
If I could give you cards, i'd give it to you. :D

Yeah that would be sweet. I read they wanted to do multiplayer for PW:D early on but if they are going to make a PW:D2 then they probably would wait until then.

I wouldn't mind a Multiplayer, although i won't be surprised if it's pushed off until PW:D2.

By then, they probably would have made it on an updated or heavily modified game engine (of w/e they used for this game).

I'm sure by then, they would have like 3x to 5x more cards than this one.
They probably by then, would make so many different tower card types, you could play the game many different ways, then waiting for key towers like most have to now.
THM Nov 1, 2013 @ 10:28pm 
Would you know it I bought the 20 star pack and got 2 cards I already had. FML. However I did spend 4 x 1000 silver buying artifact packs from the store to upgrade my stone towers. Now I can pass 'Hard' Wave 1. Still not able to survive past mid Wave 2.

But I'm pretty happy with that.

Are Energy Towers worth upgrading? I have 2 base Energy Tower cards now. I don't really fancy the low rate of fire (0.4).

Editted: This is a screenshot of my 20 star wasted.
http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=191282917
Last edited by THM; Nov 2, 2013 @ 12:20am
Fon Master Ion Nov 1, 2013 @ 11:51pm 
I haven't used Energy Towers personally, so i can't really give advice on it.

I have one, but haven't used it.
Since my current towers are working fine, i'm just working on upgrading their level.
THM Nov 2, 2013 @ 12:16am 
Originally posted by Fon Master Ion:
I haven't used Energy Towers personally, so i can't really give advice on it.

I have one, but haven't used it.
Since my current towers are working fine, i'm just working on upgrading their level.

Yeah personally haven't read anyone using Energy towers at all.

Well...after playing for 20+ hours. Finally got my first decent unique tower. The Sun tower dropped for me after killing one of the bosses!

http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=191282945

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