Sun Bro Aug 18, 2013 @ 8:23pm
worth it?
is this game worth buying? ive only played the fps shadowrun but the lore seems pretty cool. i love what i see from videos but i hear theres a save game bug? what are your opinions?
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Sun Bro Aug 18, 2013 @ 9:03pm 
well i went to go buy it and steam charged me twice and didnt even give me the game. fml.
esperanzo Aug 18, 2013 @ 9:10pm 
Originally posted by Fentoozler:
is this game worth buying? ive only played the fps shadowrun but the lore seems pretty cool. i love what i see from videos but i hear theres a save game bug? what are your opinions?

No bug that I'm aware of. Just no save-on-demand. It is a checkpoint save system so either quit when you hit a checkpoint, or be prepared to re-do what you've done from the last check point.
brutalny Aug 18, 2013 @ 9:50pm 
not worth 20
likwidtek Aug 19, 2013 @ 12:02am 
If you love turn based story rich games with a cyberpunk/magic/bladerunner sort of feel, this is a must buy. I personally love this game SO HARD. Amazing game and the story and writing is absolutely the best.
TeamR is a gangsta Aug 19, 2013 @ 1:56am 
The lore/story speaks for itself. If you like turn based strategy games with an old school feel, or games with a strong community element (user generate dcontent) feel then you shouldn't miss it. great game imo
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y4uhittaz Aug 19, 2013 @ 6:14am 
Its totally worth 20 dollars. We will forgive you for only ever playing the FPS if you never mention that FPS ever again.
deadsanta Aug 19, 2013 @ 8:59am 
It's worth about $5, and that only for fans of the original game. It's coded by novices and designed by people who design PnP games, but seem to be clueless about thr crpg genre.

To the guy who linked Metacritic: The reviews by game sites were made before the game shipped, by sites that accept money for articles, and the hundreds of "10s" on the user side are clearly a PR campaign by either loyal fans or dev-paid drones, or both.

I bet you think all 5-star reviews on Amazon are sincere, as well?
Necanthrope Aug 19, 2013 @ 9:42am 
Definately worth it imo. I've never played a Shadowrun game or backed the kickstarter, obviously though I've heard of both. I picked it up purely as an old skool rpg with an interesting setting. I finished the campaign in the last half hour after putting in 14 hours since Saturday. Thoroughly enjoyed the whole thing.

The story / dialogue is well presented throughout. The music is great which with no voice acting (this is for the better imo) is quite important. Visually it has a nice style with some nicely detailed backgrounds. The combat system has a decent amount of depth to it once you level up some. Oh and Karma gain (XP) is divorced from combat which imo is great. You can choose to deal with situations how you please without being penalised. Enemies also don't drop anything but plot items so you don't miss out there either.

On the negative side I had 3 complaints. No save anywhere which has been debated to death. It didn't impact my enjoyment but its absence is baffling. Line of sight can somtimes be hard to determine. This wasn't a major issue and didn't happen often. However its irritating to waste an action moving again because your first move left you with no LoS. Finally I wasn't a fan of the game staying in turnbased mode when no enemies where in the vicinity. It made traversing certain levels much slower than it needed to be and other games have handled this better. It was also quite pronounced for me as I utilised 2 drones and so often only had 1 of my 3 actions available.

I have to say though my complaints where largely trivial compared to the enjoyment I had. It's not a perfect game but it does most things well enough. Its the story thats the true strong point and you will want to read everything.

This is probably the first CRPG where I've played a character that didn't directly attack anything for the entire game (ignoring the tutorial fight!). I was given a gun at the start of the campaign proper. I never used it and sold it straight away. IMO my Decker / Rigger is probably the most fun way to play the game. Those skills appear to open up a lot of options during the game as well as being extremely effective in their respective arena's.

I'm extremely tempted to play another character and thats probably the best recommendation I can give.

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Fleischtorte Aug 19, 2013 @ 9:54am 
Originally posted by Necanthrope:
The combat system has a decent amount of depth to it once you level up some.
Depth? What's complex about 2 kinds of cover and shooting with your best gun/skill?

Oh and Karma gain (XP) is divorced from combat which imo is great. You can choose to deal with situations how you please without being penalised. Enemies also don't drop anything but plot items so you don't miss out there either.
"without being penalised" --> how can this be a good RPG if u don't struggle with your decisions?
Necanthrope Aug 19, 2013 @ 10:19am 
There's 3 types of cover based on the shield icons I've seen as well as no cover at all. The game has upto 4 (at least) different attacks per gun / melee type. It also has drones, summons, buffs, debuffs, direct damage spells and hacking (such as hacking turrets to your side). It's certainly not lacking in options once you start to accrue Karma.

Perhaps next time invest in something other than maxing out your Assualt Rifle and spamming Full Auto? I didn't even carry a gun on my playthrough and still had lots to do. I did all the Decking events myself and my drones where very effective. By the end my Assault drone had pretty much the same firing options as a PC.

Combat in most RPG's is the primary source of XP. Therefore avoiding it is generally not in your best interest. By divorcing XP from combat you allow the player real choice. I can fight these guys because I'm a grizzled ex marine and my assault rifle is all I know. Alternatively I can use my hacking skills to redirect them elsewhere. Yet again I can use my charisma to sweet talk my way past etc. All 3 methods work and ultimately net you some XP. That's because the game gives you goals like 'get to a terminal' and rewards you for doing so. What it doesn't do is proscribe how you do it. This is why getting 1 Karma for each enemy you kill is a bad idea and why I'm glad combat isn't the source of progression in this game.

As to struggling with decisions that has nothing to do with combat. I can't say I struggled to decide what to do as I had decided on my characters viewpoint before I even started playing. However there are some decent decisions to be made. Some of these even give you extra Karma. However whilst most won't materially change the flow of the game they do add flavour. your dialogue choices don't have to change the world. They can just be the expression of your characters world view. You know role-playing...
forgotthemilk Aug 19, 2013 @ 11:00am 
I'd say wait till it's on sale on Steam. The game will be much more worth the cost of admission a few months down the line (at least) IMO, cause more great user generated content will be available.
jjxanadu Aug 19, 2013 @ 11:30am 
I agree with archie_duke. I love Shadowrun (used to play weekly in the mid '90s during college), and this game captures some of the feel of the pen and paper game, but wait for a sale. At $20 you'll probably be able to get this for $5-8 within 6 months (Think winter sale).
Whiskey Aug 19, 2013 @ 12:24pm 
Worth it for me. Reminds me of Fallout & Fallout Tactics a bit. Better graphics, cool soundtrack. You do not need to loot, you do not need to kill everything in site.

Should keep me busy for a bit.
Ajay Aug 19, 2013 @ 2:46pm 
its a bad try to get the old SNES Shadowrun version into the PC. I would remind buy it when its on 75% sale or in the humble bundle. It looks good and the tunr based is good to not get hacked into pieces like in the SNES version but for me there are alot issues with the enemy. e.q: the harder difficulty doesnt mean enemy with higher Ai or better eq, jsut more hp and alot more dummys running around.
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