Douglas Quaid Aug 16, 2013 @ 3:43pm
$2 Million Kickstarter and this is what we get?
A half finished game with a mediocre turn based combat system, tons of bugs, no voice acting, on-rails linear game path, tons of useless skills and abilities (decking) and a main campaign that lasts 3 hours.

Where exactly did all that money go?
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Moysey89 Aug 16, 2013 @ 3:44pm 
in thier pockets :D
Krungen Aug 16, 2013 @ 3:59pm 
fanboys in 3...2...1...
Timey Wimey Detector Aug 16, 2013 @ 4:02pm 
more like 1.2 million since everything else went to pay fees, and that's a tiny budget, what did you expect? it's not perfect, of course, but they don't charge you a AAA game's price either, and they are working in the Berlin DLC that was paid with some of that money too + localization (in the works) + the editor + several people full year salaries + and probably more stuff that I don't remember at the moment, happy now?
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Carmichael Aug 16, 2013 @ 4:14pm 
My campaign was like 12 hrs I think.
dungeoncrawl Aug 16, 2013 @ 4:25pm 
I enjoyed it....especially considering I only paid $20 for it. Also enjoying the UGC.
B'oh | ShadowFighter88 Aug 16, 2013 @ 5:14pm 
Campaign's 12 hours.
It was about $1.3 mil after Amazon and Kickstarter's cuts (and possibly the physical rewards for backers - I can't find solid info whether that was before or after the $1.3 mil).

Voice acting alone - actor hiring fees, director fees, equipment, software, etc - would take a major chunk out of that. Not to mention restricting the possibilities for dialogue (the more dialogue you add to the game, the more voice acting you need). And how would you handle that GM text in the dialogue windows? Separate voice from the character? Someone not paying attention to the dialogue window could get confused.

And games development costs a lot more than people keep thinking. Kind of wish HBS would do a cost breakdown like what Freddie Wong did for each season of Video Game High School - to protect the cast and crew's privacy, he lumped their wages into a single entry on the breakdown's infogram. HBS giving out something like that would certainly stop all these money questions.
Ollie Aug 16, 2013 @ 5:19pm 
Originally posted by Douglas Quaid:
A half finished game with a mediocre turn based combat system, tons of bugs, no voice acting, on-rails linear game path, tons of useless skills and abilities (decking) and a main campaign that lasts 3 hours.

Where exactly did all that money go?

You're a little late to the party, Buddy...all your complaints came up a million times before.
It gets boring!

Edit: Oh, and ..."a campaign that lasts 3 hrs"?! Yeah Dude, troll on.

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y4uhittaz Aug 16, 2013 @ 5:19pm 
Stop restarting this thread. Its been said and done. Yes it was a 2 mill kickstarter, but unless you have actually help develop a game, you are all talking out your asses. The bottom line is that the hard core fans are happy, and if you aren't at least moderately satisfied with the product, then wait for UGC or the Berlin campaign, or go stuff yourself because you are an idiot. No the game isn't baldurs gate, nor was it ever intended to be. The kickstarters like myself helped reboot a franchise, and we couldn't give a ♥♥♥♥ less what the naysayers have to say. I consider it a 1000$ well spent, and I would do it again. Please delete this thread.
Ollie Aug 16, 2013 @ 5:21pm 
Originally posted by y4uhittaz:
Stop restarting this thread. Its been said and done. Yes it was a 2 mill kickstarter, but unless you have actually help develop a game, you are all talking out your asses. The bottom line is that the hard core fans are happy, and if you aren't at least moderately satisfied with the product, then wait for UGC or the Berlin campaign, or go stuff yourself because you are an idiot. No the game isn't baldurs gate, nor was it ever intended to be. The kickstarters like myself helped reboot a franchise, and we couldn't give a ♥♥♥♥ less what the naysayers have to say. I consider it a 1000$ well spent, and I would do it again. Please delete this thread.
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Krungen Aug 16, 2013 @ 5:22pm 
Originally posted by y4uhittaz:
Stop restarting this thread. Its been said and done. Yes it was a 2 mill kickstarter, but unless you have actually help develop a game, you are all talking out your asses. The bottom line is that the hard core fans are happy, and if you aren't at least moderately satisfied with the product, then wait for UGC or the Berlin campaign, or go stuff yourself because you are an idiot. No the game isn't baldurs gate, nor was it ever intended to be. The kickstarters like myself helped reboot a franchise, and we couldn't give a ♥♥♥♥ less what the naysayers have to say. I consider it a 1000$ well spent, and I would do it again. Please delete this thread.

But why make a game for the hard core yet market it to the masses? People get ♥♥♥♥ed when they feel suckered.
Allarion Aug 16, 2013 @ 5:30pm 
Originally posted by Krungen:
But why make a game for the hard core yet market it to the masses? People get ♥♥♥♥ed when they feel suckered.

If anyone "gets suckered" at this point in history buying any game a week or longer after release, then they fraggin' deserve it. Any game.

It is called "google it", do that before you buy a game. If you are buying it a week after release, like I said, there WILL be ample reviews out there, just like for SR:R, and you can make an informed decision. If you want to make extra sure you don't "get suckered" buy a game a few weeks or a month afterwards.

Either way, I have no pity for anyone with buyers remorse for a video game. Not since the invention of the internet.
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y4uhittaz Aug 16, 2013 @ 5:32pm 
If you feel you got suckered, I refer you to the comment about stuffing yourself because you are an idiot.
No one made you pay for this game, no one held a gun to your head and stole your money. And for 20$ I would say you got more than you paid for. If you disagree, I refer you to the comment about suffing yourself, you know why....
Oh yea, did you even fund the kickstarter? If not, why do any of you care and why did this thread get restarted?
Now kill this thread. Trolls go home.
theseeman Aug 16, 2013 @ 6:22pm 
turn on the editor quaid.
Xorcist Aug 16, 2013 @ 6:41pm 
Voice acting ??? WTF drugs are you on . This was a text based classic RPG from the start !! You sound like a spoiled baby , I'm 33 and love the texted based rpg .
Minsk and Boo Aug 16, 2013 @ 6:42pm 
What's the issue Doug? you didn't play the PnP version? You have no idea what the Shadowrun World is? You misunderstood 'faithful translation of the PnP game'? Metacritic and Google don't function in your multiverse? Sorry for you, mate. This game was exactly what I expected and I'm delighted about that.
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