klcorneliusjr 13 лют о 13:48
escape from new york
I just watch both movies the other one is escape from la as i watch them i was like omg did shadowrun get the idea off these movies because they are very close with the world becoming ruin can anyone let me know.

here's a trailer for L.A
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o6SWofbYD90
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B'oh | ShadowFighter88 13 лют о 13:51 
Well the world in Shadowrun isn't a ruin, though; it's more like Blade Runner - run-down slums in otherwise high-tech cities dominated by megacorporations. Only city to actually get ruined was Chicago sometime in the mid-late 2050s when the bug spirits there got strong enough to make Ares nuke the place.
klcorneliusjr 13 лют о 14:04 
I see idk if you watch both movies but for some reason it has a shadowrun feel to it i was just wondering if they got some idea off it because in LA the year is 2050 when i seen that i was like wow shadowrun and im going off the saga gen story not returns idk if you play that one but that was the best shadowrun to me.
klcorneliusjr 13 лют о 14:06 
not only that omg that make for a badass story with shadowrun returns even if its fan made i wish i knew how to use the editro better i make a lore off new york and la be cool what you think.
Philip Marlowe 13 лют о 14:24 
Have you read Snow Crash (cyberpunk with some Sumerian mysticism injected) and the seminial literary novel Neuromancer which is obviously Shadowrun's source material? 1. look up the vocabulary of Neuromancer and compare to Shadowrun; it's verbatim almost as they are the same universe. 2. look up the atmosphere, sociopolical economics of Neuromancer and compare again.

Escape from New York/L.A. also borrow from William Gibson's work* (and to a lesser extent Neal Stephenson's) as do all cyberpunk themes and tropes.*

Anyway, an Escape From New York/L.A.-type Shadowrun Returns story would be pretty freaking cool. Escape from New York was great when it came out and still makes for a good cyberpunk movie. I would recommend making it and entering it in the Shadowrun Returns Editor Community Contest.

*correction and addendum in my next post.
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Spud 13 лют о 17:09 
Цитата допису philipmarlowe90:

Anyway. an Escape From New York/L.A.-type Shadowrun Returns story would be pretty freaking cool. Escape from New York was great when it came out and still makes for a good cyberpunk movie. I would recommend making it and entering it in the Shadowrun Returns Editor Community Contest.

This would be way cool!!
klcorneliusjr 13 лют о 18:10 
wow cool im learing alot i just love those movies i remember watching them then when i play shadowrn i was like omg did they take things from shadowrun lol
klcorneliusjr 13 лют о 18:14 
well if you guys could show me how to use the editor im really good at learing thing fast i have sony vegas from pass world or warcraft pvp video and intros i made so i can learn it fast i like to make it with a good story and long game play like the saga gen one with alot of side quest or i would i give someone my idea and they could do it so we could play it :)
klcorneliusjr 13 лют о 18:15 
also here is the trailer for the fist movie
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ckvDo2JHB7o
klcorneliusjr 13 лют о 18:17 
in the new york moive they have a part where ti reminds me of th ghouls in shadowrun saga gen where you have to kill so many and you get money for each kill kind of creepy

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rr138XZoqXM
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Philip Marlowe 13 лют о 21:14 
Thank you, Spud. Hmmmm... Interesting, I might make a UGC myself...
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Cutlass Jack 13 лют о 22:35 
Well clearly Trolls were swiped from Ernest Borgnine.

But if we're comparing Shadowrun to Kurt Russell movies, I humbly suggest 'Big Trouble in Little China' to be a closer fit. :P
Автор останньої редакції: Cutlass Jack; 13 лют о 22:37
Philip Marlowe 13 лют о 22:48 
I don't know who Ernest Borgnine is or his connection to trolls but I think you're right with "Big Trouble in Little China", in regards to the fantasy aspects of Shadowrun anyway.
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rez 14 лют о 10:47 
Цитата допису Cutlass Jack:
But if we're comparing Shadowrun to Kurt Russell movies, I humbly suggest 'Big Trouble in Little China' to be a closer fit. :P
+1

Philip Marlowe 15 лют о 20:28 
I have to correct myself as I made an overly sweeping statement regarding cyberpunk. While Neuromancer is seminal literary work that inspired most of cyberpunk genre; I was wrong when I stated that Neuromancer influenced "Escape from New York".

In fact OP is correct in his inference that "Escape from New York" is an indirect source material for Shadowrun. William Gibson credits parts of "Escape from New York" as having influenced his work on Neuromancer which in turn largely influenced Shadowrun (and cyberpunk in general (excluding "Bladerunner" as both are parallel to each other in terms of very similar seminal influence to the cyberpunk genre but in different media mediums, former in print and the latter in film)).

Obviously there's even more influencing factors here (e.g. fantasy aspects) but this post is mainly concerning my inaccurate claim regarding OP's initial topic.

So bottom line in terms of "lineage" by influence it goes as follows: "Escape from New York" (somewhat) --> Neuromancer --> Shadowrun
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