Inkizitor Nov 21, 2012 @ 11:51am
Where is the music???
Hi, that's cool to have Quake 2 and his add-ons, but where is the music? At the release there was audio tracks on the CD but now the game is not complete... How do we play with the terrific original score???
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Jack!e_Bən Jan 20, 2013 @ 2:02pm 
They were on a separate audio-track on the original game cd-s, you're better off with .ISOs, or ripped .ogg/.mp3 music and a source port which supports them. It's the case with many older game, such a shame =\
Inkizitor Jan 21, 2013 @ 2:09pm 
Yes I still have the origial CD somewhere but they manage to add the music in MP3 for some games like Half Life for example. I don't understand why we should pay for something that is not complete... And this is the same thing for the first Quake...
project_overkill_203 Feb 28, 2013 @ 11:11am 
Ultimate Quake patches fix this for both Quake 1+2 and expansions for both. They run better as well. Such a simple fix fo such a huge (and lazy on the developers end) issue.
The Bitterness May 23, 2013 @ 1:03am 
Originally posted by Project Overkill 203:
Ultimate Quake patches fix this for both Quake 1+2 and expansions for both. They run better as well. Such a simple fix fo such a huge (and lazy on the developers end) issue.

I'm less sure this is a developer or publisher issue and more inclined to think this is a Valve/Steam issue. Other games that have music on the CD, where the CD can be played in a stereo as a record in and of itself, are present in the Half-Life games and they have the music without needing the CD or a mod of some kind.

I am not sure why Valve chose to offer these games in this particular fashion and I just can't be charitable to Valve. After all, there's no good reason we don't have the HeXen II expansion pack when other Raven Software titles are there. To be clear, Raven Software developed all of the Heretic/HeXen titles and those were published by ID. This means that there isn't a reason to believe Valve couldn't get a hold of the developer (or publisher) to see if they could do something about the missing music. Raven Software is NOT defunct.

There's just no rationale for this sort of thing. Come the day GoG is able to acquire licensing rights to the ID catalogue...well, I'll really have no reason to use Steam. ^^
Inkizitor May 23, 2013 @ 10:42am 
This is quite amazing that we need a "non official" tweak for a game we pay and is incomplete.
krashd Jun 14, 2013 @ 10:58pm 
If noone here is old enough to remember then I'll remind you that the soundtracks for the first two Quake games were actually entire Nine Inch Nails (NiN) albums made specifically for the game. I smell a licensing/royalties/permission issue...
The Bitterness Jun 15, 2013 @ 2:13am 
Originally posted by krashd:
If noone here is old enough to remember then I'll remind you that the soundtracks for the first two Quake games were actually entire Nine Inch Nails (NiN) albums made specifically for the game. I smell a licensing/royalties/permission issue...

NIN was only involved with the first game and, if I recall correctly, the two expansions. Trent stated interest in doing the Q2 soundtrack but simply did not have the time to devote to it. Sonic Mayhem has did the Q2 soundtrack and its subsequent expansions.
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krashd Jun 15, 2013 @ 2:32am 
I stand corrected said the man in the orthopaedic shoes.
The Bitterness Jun 15, 2013 @ 2:26pm 
Originally posted by krashd:
I stand corrected said the man in the orthopaedic shoes.

^^

Irrespective of who did the music for the soundtracks, this is something consistent across Q1 and Q2. (I'll have to boot up Q3 later and see if that's the case for that game, too.) It seems to me that there wasn't a licensing issue. When we look at how Trent Reznor has been handling his music, it's very clear that he is against a very heavy-handed approach in respect to licensing. After all, this is the man who let The Slip be downloaded for free (I have a physical copy) and has issued both The Slip and Ghosts I-IV under a CCL. When I combine this with playing games on GoG with Sonic Mayhem music, I also do think there is an issue there. After all, again, Valve's Steam si the Wal-Mart of video gaming and there's no way GoG would be able to acquire licensing with Valve left out in the cold.

No, in the end I believe it's as I said in an earlier post. There is simply no rationale for leaving out the music, leaving out what is legitimately part of the game. I firmly believe that Valve just doesn't care and I'm frustrated that I have to use Steam to play Killing Floor with my girlriend and the ID games on my own. The moment GoG offers the ID games I'll have no real reason to use Steam and I'm sure my girlfriend will find the same, as she believes the same about Valve by virtue of her own experience. There's just no good reason aside from easy multi-player and wanting to purchase video games at fire sale prices to support Valve.
krashd Jun 15, 2013 @ 9:55pm 
The Bitterness, I agree that Valve have become somewhat corporate since their darling baby Steam became more than just a platform to launch their own titles, but I don't believe there is any malice behind their actions. You said it yourself that you couldn't fathom why someone would not include the ingame music with a game without some sort of rationale, so it must be there. A reason why.

My only gripe is that they haven't stated what that reason is. I'm still chuffed to bits with Steam (a British phrase), 99 times out of 100 I am fully satisfied with their service, but it does irk me also that I've purchased a game that isn't the complete package.
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The Bitterness Jun 16, 2013 @ 7:52pm 
Originally posted by krashd:
The Bitterness, I agree that Valve have become somewhat corporate since their darling baby Steam became more than just a platform to launch their own titles, but I don't believe there is any malice behind their actions. You said it yourself that you couldn't fathom why someone would not include the ingame music with a game without some sort of rationale, so it must be there. A reason why.

My only gripe is that they haven't stated what that reason is. I'm still chuffed to bits with Steam (a British phrase), 99 times out of 100 I am fully satisfied with their service, but it does irk me also that I've purchased a game that isn't the complete package.

It seems to me to be an overall lack of care, viz. they are aware of the general disposition of the majority of their customer base and, since it doesn't include concerns with things like manuals, they aren't conerned with paying attention to the fact that the game material in question was only available on the game disc. This is an attitude that has become quite commonplance in the video game industry and now we see more jargon than anything else in respect to it, we hear about 'entertainment' and 'products' while so rarely hearing about 'games'. It's very troubling to read about companies talking about their games as 'products' instead of as 'games'.

With that said, I'll end this line of thought because I think that any further conversation is well away from the purpose of the OP.
MC JUKE Nov 5, 2013 @ 2:16am 
ANYBODY CAN GIVE DA TORRENT LINK TO MUSIC FOR QUAKE, PLZZ? LOOKING FOR MAXIMUM PLEASURE : )
Inkizitor Nov 5, 2013 @ 2:43pm 
Inkizitor Nov 5, 2013 @ 2:46pm 
But it still sucks to pay for an incomplete game and there is no answer from valve or the editor.
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