New location of Ancient Science books?

[Tarkus]

So I only remember the Ancient Science books being sold in the hive villages. I reimported my save with some of those but sold them all....wasn't the smartest idea in retrospect.

So are they still being sold in the hive villages? because I can't seem to find any here. Either that or I'm just unlucky

[blot]

They are not, they should only spawn in the ancient labs and libraries now.

[dq_177]

Are the Black Dragon Ninjas important? I noticed they have a couple of Ancient Science books in their tower and was considering raiding them for those, need just 2 more to get to Tech Level 5.

[blot]

Important? This is Kenshi, do what you want!

[dq_177]

Feel somewhat bad about massacring a faction that isn't a bandit, cannibal or fogman.
Since I know for certain they are all monsters that wander about attacking people so can claim self-defence.

Kinda wish I could make more alliances, they only people I've been able to befriend so far are the Ninja Thieves who simply require a cash payment to join.
Are there any other factions that are easy to join up with?

[blot]

Flotsam Ninjas and the Shinobi Thieves are the only ones I can remember that offers a kind of membership. Bringing bounties to Holy Nation, Shek Kingdoms and United Cities tend to get their favor but that's not really like joining them.

[Slinger]

The only vedors I've seen with them are the ones in World's End. They usually have 2-5 books and one set of Engineering plans between all of the vendors.

[Tarkus]

I think I've never been to worlds end...too bad I'm pretty much on the other end of the map. But I'll give it a shot!

[Shidan]

Originally posted by dq_177:

Feel somewhat bad about massacring a faction that isn't a bandit, cannibal or fogman.
Since I know for certain they are all monsters that wander about attacking people so can claim self-defence.

No need to attack them. They don't become hostile if you steal from their containers. So just walk in, take the stuff, walk out.

And even if you do wipe them out, they definitely fit into your category of "monsters" so I wouldn't worry about it. ;)

[Tarkus]

Wow nice, they really do sell Engineering Research AND Ancient Science Books at Worlds End. And the price isn't even that high, much more convenient. Do they sell AI Cores there too or do I need to find them still? didn't fight the Security Spiders as of the new update yet but I my whole squad got obliterated by some Skin Spiders so I'll probably give it some time...

[Temper]

Originally posted by Tarkus:

Wow nice, they really do sell Engineering Research AND Ancient Science Books at Worlds End. And the price isn't even that high, much more convenient. Do they sell AI Cores there too or do I need to find them still? didn't fight the Security Spiders as of the new update yet but I my whole squad got obliterated by some Skin Spiders so I'll probably give it some time...

There can be a huge disparity from one game start,import to the next *as in* Worlds End having all you need or zero (0) Ancient Books and zero (0) Engineering Research at all.

For an example,my latest game World's End had no books or research,they also had no thieves bags ..... the game start was pretty barren of things I was going to be looking to buy in the near future ...... BUT,raiding ruined labs and workshops produced an outstanding *all you can eat* tech meal.

My other save file is in stark contrast.World's End supplied everything I needed (bar Cores) and the ruins were a non event loot wise.

Iron Spiders are fairly well dispersed,just take your time and fight single spiders while adventuring and try to seperate multiples if possible.When your squad is low skill,the best way to fight tough enemies is *two on one* ... one guy defend/taunt other attack and switch jobs as required to keep the spider changing target.Don't swarm much tougher enemies,they'll rip a hole in your ranks faster than you can say game over.

[blot]

Originally posted by Tarkus:

Wow nice, they really do sell Engineering Research AND Ancient Science Books at Worlds End. And the price isn't even that high, much more convenient. Do they sell AI Cores there too or do I need to find them still? didn't fight the Security Spiders as of the new update yet but I my whole squad got obliterated by some Skin Spiders so I'll probably give it some time...

Sell? No, but if you're the thieving type you should definitely check out the Machinists university there (the big ancient lab building in World's End).

[Tarkus]

Woot? The traders sold me Engineering Research and Ancient Science Books,...5k for the books and 8k for the research. Their stock doesn't seem to refill though..

[blot]

Originally posted by Tarkus:

Woot? The traders sold me Engineering Research and Ancient Science Books,...5k for the books and 8k for the research. Their stock doesn't seem to refill though..

How long did you wait for the restock?

[Tarkus]

Not really sure but more than 10 days for sure.

[blot]

Originally posted by Tarkus:

Not really sure but more than 10 days for sure.

I started a new game without my mods and checked and they do sell them, which puzzles me as there's nothing in the FCS that would explain why they would.
I've been running with my mods for quite some time now and I thought that the books and plans were removed from the vendors in a recent patch, or that it was an old mod I don't use anymore that added them there in the first place.

However they will never sell AI Cores, that's something you'll have to loot or steal.