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Dracula Feb 9 @ 12:27am
Oberon or zephyr?
So I've been playing this game a lot lately, and enjoying it. The thing is that I kinda want another warframe.

So far, I've been keeping an eye on every each of them, but two have attracted me the most, oberon and zephyr. Ive seen each warframe and their abilities. They are apparently quite balanced. However, it still kinda doubt me. Oberon currently is discounted with bundle at 50 %, which is an awesome deal, but my friend who also played the just finished building it, so I dont think its a good idea to bring 2 oberon in 1 game. On the other hand, zephyr looks awesome with her abilities to stay in the air for a long time, however its a really new warframe, and almost no one talked about it or use it, and also IMO she's kinda hard to use ( staying in air while shooting is what first comes to my mind when seeing zephyr )

So, I need opinion and suggestion. Which one is better or worth the plat? For those who have played both what are their pros and cons? That's all I think for now.
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Fixer Feb 9 @ 2:01am 
Owning both, I'd recommend Oberon over Zephyr. If you're going for the Oberon pack, that would be a good idea. I had a lot of fun with the mace, and the Karak is actually much more effective as an all-around damage dealer than it's stats would lead you to believe.
Zephyr needs a few fixes, and at the best of times she is NOT more airborne than any other given frame. If you think along the lines of a slightly floatier Valkyr, that's pretty much Zephyr. Her airborne slam doesn't deal damage because the origin is set too low, it collides under the ground and misses all the enemies. Tail Wind shoots you up in the air for 25 energy, and then you get ONE dash for another 25 energy. After that, you have to either divebomb or fall back to earth before you can Tail Wind again. It's not worth the time, it's not worth the energy, and half the tilesets are going to be too confined for you to actually make use of those first two powers. Her 3 and 4 are moderately useful, but are expensive powers that other frames already do better.

If your heart is set on Zephyr's mobility, I'd actually recommend substituting Valkyr. Rip Line has a lot more utility because it works indoors and can deal pretty good single-target damage. Failing to kill an enemy, it will yank them across the map with a guaranteed knockdown.

Neither of these frames really have the same level of usefulness as Oberon and the "core" frames. Having two Oberons is not that big of a deal, you'll be able to heal each other, stack his area-denial skill, and slam large groups of enemies. With the two of you working in tandem, you may be able to pull off unconventional health-tank builds in order to capitalize on your healing abilities and the health orbs that your ultimate drops.

If I knew more about your Mastery Rank, playstyle, and what frames/weapons you/your friend own, I would actually make some suggestions for frames other than Oberon/Zephyr. In general, I find that frames released after Nova seem to have more niche appeal and less general utility than the core frames do.
Babs Feb 9 @ 2:32am 
From my experience, Oberon could be the most underperforming Warframe. Oberon's abilities are centered a damage dealing caster, because his healing abilities are duration based, and will not save anyone's life during the heat of battle. Trinity's well of life heals much better and well of life is considered Trinity's most useless ability. You COULD play oberon as a healer, but a slow duration-based heal that needs to chase your allies around the map does not compare to a global heal that provides invulnerability. Oberon's maximum effectiveness also relies on his enemies to bunch up together, as smite projectiles tend to miss quite often in large open areas and other casters such as Nova and even Ember will be doing much more damage in all situations.

Zephyr as a frame has quite much more survivability than Oberon. Turbelence granst Zephyr a shield that blocks incoming projectiles, and turns Zephyr into a bullet tank against Grineer and Corpus. When fighting the infestation, Zephyr can cast Tailwind as an escape mechanism. However, Zephyr's divebomb is quite useless at this point, and you're better off shooting from the air. Zephyr's real main attraction is her ultimate, which does great crowd control and damage when used well.

Howevever, NEVER buy a warframe with platinum unless you have a clear idea what you're getting into. Buying anything with platinum is always a ripoff and should only be done if you're impatient, rich and spoilt. I think the fact that Oberon is obtainable VERY early in the game should be an incentive enough to not purchase him. The Paladin bundle isn't exactly anything special either. The Karak has poor magazine size and will have lower DPS since half the time you'll be reloading. The Stug gel gun is pretty cool though and is worth using just for its gimmick alone.

My recommendation is to farm for Oberon. Despite being underperforming at higher levels, Oberon will still be able to kick ♥♥♥ at low level planets until you're able to get another frame. Zephyr will take an amazingly long time to obtain unless you buy her with plat so farming for her is out of the question. Perhaps take a look at Trinity too, if you want the most useful support who performs well on all levels.
Dracula Feb 9 @ 2:40am 
^Thanks for the reply! That was quite fast

TBH, Oberon does attract me more. I choose zephyr as one of my choices, simply because she is a balanced character. Not too strong, but not weak either. I would have closed the deal with Oberon had my friend NOT built him.

FYI, im still fairly new at the game. Laugh at me at for being an idiot, if you want, for buying things early on instead of getting the resources. I try to get a new warframe because a seller in my country sell 465 platinum for only 7 bucks, which is an awesome deal. Im currently still at mastery rank 1 ( 1/4 bar to rank 2 ).

As for playstyle, I...cannot describe. It seem that I like to do wreck havoc to the enemy, but can also contribute to the team too ( which, basically, describe Oberon perfectly ). Other than that, I pretty much also like frames that can do huge AoE damage ( Ember basically comes to my mind, but again my friend already built him )

If you want to give another suggestion, im all ears ! :D
Dracula Feb 9 @ 2:45am 
Originally posted by Nanako's Pet:
From my experience, Oberon could be the most underperforming Warframe. Oberon's abilities are centered a damage dealing caster, because his healing abilities are duration based, and will not save anyone's life during the heat of battle. Trinity's well of life heals much better and well of life is considered Trinity's most useless ability. You COULD play oberon as a healer, but a slow duration-based heal that needs to chase your allies around the map does not compare to a global heal that provides invulnerability. Oberon's maximum effectiveness also relies on his enemies to bunch up together, as smite projectiles tend to miss quite often in large open areas and other casters such as Nova and even Ember will be doing much more damage in all situations.

Zephyr as a frame has quite much more survivability than Oberon. Turbelence granst Zephyr a shield that blocks incoming projectiles, and turns Zephyr into a bullet tank against Grineer and Corpus. When fighting the infestation, Zephyr can cast Tailwind as an escape mechanism. However, Zephyr's divebomb is quite useless at this point, and you're better off shooting from the air. Zephyr's real main attraction is her ultimate, which does great crowd control and damage when used well.

Howevever, NEVER buy a warframe with platinum unless you have a clear idea what you're getting into. Buying anything with platinum is always a ripoff and should only be done if you're impatient, rich and spoilt. I think the fact that Oberon is obtainable VERY early in the game should be an incentive enough to not purchase him. The Paladin bundle isn't exactly anything special either. The Karak has poor magazine size and will have lower DPS since half the time you'll be reloading. The Stug gel gun is pretty cool though and is worth using just for its gimmick alone.

My recommendation is to farm for Oberon. Despite being underperforming at higher levels, Oberon will still be able to kick ♥♥♥ at low level planets until you're able to get another frame. Zephyr will take an amazingly long time to obtain unless you buy her with plat so farming for her is out of the question. Perhaps take a look at Trinity too, if you want the most useful support who performs well on all levels.


Thx for reply ! ( P.S. if the post above confuse you, its actually meant for Fixer )

I did once consider trinity as a choice. I eliminate it from my choice because IMO she is too support-oriented. She can heal all people globally, but I really doubt her overall power.
Babs Feb 9 @ 2:55am 
"As for playstyle, I...cannot describe. It seem that I like to do wreck havoc to the enemy, but can also contribute to the team too ( which, basically, describe Oberon perfectly ). Other than that, I pretty much also like frames that can do huge AoE damage ( Ember basically comes to my mind, but again my friend already built him )"

Frost best describes what you want. Frost has great AOE nuking abilities and has snowglobe, which is considered to be one of the best supportive abilities. (even with the nerf)


Dracula Feb 9 @ 4:15am 
Originally posted by Nanako's Pet:
"As for playstyle, I...cannot describe. It seem that I like to do wreck havoc to the enemy, but can also contribute to the team too ( which, basically, describe Oberon perfectly ). Other than that, I pretty much also like frames that can do huge AoE damage ( Ember basically comes to my mind, but again my friend already built him )"

Frost best describes what you want. Frost has great AOE nuking abilities and has snowglobe, which is considered to be one of the best supportive abilities. (even with the nerf)

Thank you for the suggestion. I also once consider Frost. Okay, I consider them all, truth be told. Frost did make on my top 5.

Apparently, people said that the nerf was really bad for Frost. Some people even said that it made him near-useless, and is not viable for 'Lategame' due to high lvl enemies. Though, opinions opinions, it may change, and I'm still in the early game.

So now, I got Oberon, Zephyr and Frost. Kinda hard to choose, but now I kinda lean towards Frost since you said it has great AOE skill and better than Oberon. I also kinda consider Trinity again, but I still really really REALLY doubt her firepower.
Neopolitan Feb 9 @ 1:29pm 
Frost is like Rhino, but more as i would say "offencive" i have Oberon and i use him for offence and support and Zephyr i have no idea about. (im horrible at spelling sorry)
Dillon_J Feb 9 @ 3:50pm 
Unless you plan on using plat you should get Obereon for now and get Zephyr later. Zephyr is probally the most expensive frame now resource wise. on top of that you can only get Zephyr through being in a clan who has it complete. but in truth if you are using plat for anything that isnt slots or cosmetic you are very impatient.
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A.K.T. Feb 9 @ 3:52pm 
Zephyr is likely one of the best Frames in the game right now; wait until she gets a balance pass before deciding. She's got 150/150 HP/Shields and 1.15 move speed, as well as an extremely powerful shield. If her Dive Bomb gets un-glitched, she'll probably be top tier or better. Dunno if DE will revoke that position or not yet.
ina_meishou Feb 9 @ 4:02pm 
Oberon is a heavily offensive caster with some useful support, such as his Renewal's ability to automatically revive players who are effected by it when they go down. Smite and Reckoning are high damage and Reckoning's ability to spawn health orbs can be quite useful. His other ability is somewhat more situational, but can be highly useful if stacked in a chokepoint or laid down over an objective.

Zephyr is a very high mobility frame given tailwind's ability to shoot you across the map. Jumping before using it will allow you to aim it in any direction you please, including down cramped corridors for the indoor tilesets. Using it in such corridors will also maximize the damage the ability does to enemies you pass by since they will be forced to clump up. Repeated castings of the ability without stopping to land however will dramatically fall off in terms of distance. Her dive bomb is currently bugged for many players, but her Tornadoes are a very good crowd control ability that will turn entire spawns into ragdolling targets that can't shoot back, and her defensive Turbulence will mittigate a fair bit of damage when fighting Corpus or Grineer.

Both are worth getting, though they're very different in terms of play. But if you're spending plat on them I'd have to honestly recommend buying Zephyr. Oberon is comparatively easy to obtain through gameplay, while Zephyr requires membership in a clan that has completed the appropriate research and a large number of credits, as well as the new Oxium material.
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W¿sekrakr Feb 10 @ 3:27pm 
Very quick spotlight for the oberon, if you were still wondering.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CSHhzDCNGfg&list=PLutWbijS5od9IP5qAQMVUQ2xiLXENiuXU
Silvanon Feb 10 @ 4:19pm 
if i can make a quick point here, ive played the game 400+ hours,

i have nearly all of the warframes potatoed and rank 30

zephyr is incredible weak in fights atm, oberon is relatively squishy and neither do great damage,

have you thought about a rhino? or nova? one is a massive tank which is difficult to die and great crowd control and the other is a massive aoe death machine specced right, i mean im only tryng to help,but rhino or nova? either would be preferable imo in a fight, (apart from high lvl defence where nova starts to suffer)

unless you "REALLY" wana play them? id pick summit else :S

p.s nice name abysswalker? dark souls fan?:D

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A.K.T. Feb 10 @ 4:28pm 
Originally posted by Silvanon:
zephyr is incredible weak in fights atm, oberon is relatively squishy and neither do great damage,

As a Founder with more hours than Steam even shows (500+), I have to disagree with the first one. Zephyr is one of the tankiest Warframes in the game, and two of her four skills have infinite scaling into endgame. She's likely the third S-tier Frame in the game, behind Trinity and tied with Rhino for effectiveness. Just try tweaking your build for her. She's genuinely impressively powerful.
VictorVonDoom Feb 10 @ 8:33pm 
Zephyr, for sure. Here's why:

- Undisputed master of mobility. Seriously, flying is not only a fun, fast, and effective way to get around, it also deals decent damage to enemies in your path. Tiles without ceilings are your playground.

- Excellent shield capacity. Despite her light weight and focus on mobility, Zephyr can eat some damage.

- Defensive skill (Turbulence). Needs fixing, but has huge potential to make Zephyr a solid all-rounder.

- Easily one of the best ultimate skills in the game (Tornado). Spawns 4 twisters right on top of enemy positions, sucks them up, deals RIDICULOUS damage (I'm talking lv. 40+ heavies dying in 5 or 6 seconds), and mosies around the room killing more baddies for up to 25 seconds. Heavy damage, crowd control, and area denial all rolled into one. Plus you can embue the tornados with different elemental properties by shooting them.

If you've got your eye on bundles for platinum, here's some info about the Update 12 Pack:

- Phage deals INSANE continuous damage, is surprisingly ammo efficient, and has adjustable spread. Great for use against all enemy factions.

- Akstiletto is a solid full-auto secondary that deals respectable damage, has great accuracy, and is good for any situation.

- Jat Kittag deals massive impact damage strike-for-strike, and its jump attack is a life-saver.
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Dracula Feb 11 @ 6:20am 
Wow, I didnt even know this thread still keep running ! Thanks again !

Honestly, Oberon now stopped crossing my mind. I'll just try to build another warframe ( Note that I said build ), and while I admit I'm too impatient, I'm just trying to get the plat worth. I mean, 465 plat for 7 bucks? Dont know about you but I think thats really cheap.

So now I got 465 plat sitting on my reserves, and I dont know what to do with it. I'll just point this out if people can answer it:

1) Oberon now got dethroned, and I wont be thinking about him anymore. So probably the one that crossed my mind are either Zephyr or Frost or Trinity. Can somebody tell me if Frost is still good even after he got nerfed hard? and how does Trinity do in the game overall? ( People said Frost got useless when facing high leveled enemy)

2) Not really a question but If people can tell me what to buy with the plat instead of frames, please do ! I really need some suggestions....

Again, I would like to point out that youre free to suggest any warframe. I'm just choosing Oberon and Zephyr as a basis. That's all. Sorry for changing the subject all the time, and Thanks.

On a side note....


Originally posted by Silvanon:
p.s nice name abysswalker? dark souls fan?:D

HELL YEAH !!! Dark souls is one of my favorite games !!! Can't wait for the sequel !
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