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RedSwirl 17 feb 2014 om 7:47nm
Just started Plutonia...
...and it seems to be kicking things up to 11 a bit soon isn't it. Revenants and Mancubuses in the first level? I think it might be blowing its load a bit too soon.
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Rent a mop 17 feb 2014 om 8:50nm 
It gets worse believe it or not...do evilution first if you haven't already, and save often.

Also, avoid the secret levels, they are a death trap.
RedSwirl 18 feb 2014 om 7:56vm 
Did Evilution already. Might still need to go back to Master Levels.
Rent a mop 4 mrt 2014 om 5:58nm 
Origineel geplaatst door RedSwirl:
Did Evilution already. Might still need to go back to Master Levels.
Master levels are ok IF you already have them, but most random wads online are just as good if not better.

Honestly though...plutonia pissed me off with some of its tactics, namely sticking you into spots immediately surrounded. Doesn't matter if its a level start, teleporting in the middle of a ton of zombies, or walls falling down all around you revealing a hoard : Those situations are more hp / armor / energy cell dumps than a challenge. Do you have health, armor, and bfg cells? You survive. Do you not? ded. Kind of lame.

Its not so bad if you have even a second to react / run for cover, but when you literally cannot avoid 100+ damage being thrown your way, it feels stupid.
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^_^ Melodytchi-Love 9 mrt 2014 om 6:19vm 
Yes, Plutonia is surprisingly more difficult than the original DOOM 2. They kind of went overboard with the monsters; adding lots of Revenants and such everywhere. Later on there are even more fusterclucks of monsters.
xdman 12 mrt 2014 om 3:49nm 
It's not that hard when you know how the traps work. To be honest, I find Plutonia better than TNT.
dementedlullaby 18 mrt 2014 om 11:15vm 
Origineel geplaatst door xdman:
It's not that hard when you know how the traps work. To be honest, I find Plutonia better than TNT.

Most people won't know how they work unless they played it before or read up prior =p. Even as an old school Doom player (always played on my grandpas 386 lol) Plutonia is pretty damn hard. Which is awesome =D.
Vex 19 mrt 2014 om 5:08nm 
Revenant orgies... Everywhere....! Plutonia was just the start, but I've seen custom projects over use them. Plutonia 2 was especially notorious for this..
Rent a mop 21 mrt 2014 om 10:39nm 
Origineel geplaatst door Brooklyn:
Revenant orgies... Everywhere....! Plutonia was just the start, but I've seen custom projects over use them. Plutonia 2 was especially notorious for this..
I like how the creator of "unloved" wad said it... The use of revenants excessively is a shortcut for making maps, when you want to make something hard without caring so much about level design.
DrQuagmire1 11 apr 2014 om 4:35vm 
Origineel geplaatst door X!~Melodytchi:
Yes, Plutonia is surprisingly more difficult than the original DOOM 2. They kind of went overboard with the monsters; adding lots of Revenants and such everywhere. Later on there are even more fusterclucks of monsters.


hahahaha, you said "fusterclucks", =D
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