Baldur's Gate: Enhanced Edition

Baldur's Gate: Enhanced Edition

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miyel19 Jun 15, 2014 @ 10:58am
Baldur's gate - miserable UI
I just bought the Enhanced Edition of this game. I never played a more frustrating Tutorial, it's ♥♥♥♥ and I regret buying this. Absolutely not understandable and complicated: how to cast a spell, memorize one etc with Xan and the other girl that joins, hardly understandable! I'm a fan of the Elder Scrolls series and Daggerfall or Morrowind, even if in the same period or older, are half the pain at the beginning. This is really a horrible outdated game that I don't recommend!
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The Horn Dog Jun 15, 2014 @ 11:04am 
If you are truely stuck look online for tips and help. If you are not familiar with tbe series it can be chalengeing. As far as casting spells goes, left click on a charicter and click on the spell button boom done. To learn new spells right click on a scroll and click write magic, if they have it allready then you can just use it as a sigle spell scroll.
Tyler Durden Jun 15, 2014 @ 11:46am 
If you can understand Daggerfall and that sort of thing, this game should come easy to learn. I'm sorry :/ It's a lot of fun, and you're missing out.
MMOGamer71 Jun 15, 2014 @ 1:32pm 
OP is silly !! BG is one of the best games ever made and still blows most of todays games out of the water.

Highly Recommended.
miyel19 Jun 16, 2014 @ 2:21am 
Yes I suppose if I can play Daggerfall or Morrowind today I'm not completely noob ;-) I read so many enthusiastic reviews of the BG classics that I would like to play them! Maybe I'll give it more tries later, skipping the Tutorial and starting to wander around with several different characters to get familiar, then starting properly again, if I have the patience! But for me it is really not intuitive and wasting such time to search for the Cast Spell button, understanding how to cast from a companion, what does the cast, resting before the cast, etc, arggh!! Also, basic things like moving by clicking somewhere and not be free to move, there are many things to adapt that many new players are not used to, so playing these games today would need more clear guidelines for newcomers that I can find in the official guides or so..
Monder Jun 16, 2014 @ 3:41am 
I'm guessing by the tutorial you mean the one off the main menu? If so I have no idea what it's like as I first played this game when I was about 10 years old when it first came out, and there was no tutorial. My suggestion; dive in. Pick one of the 3 pre-made characters, and start the game. You'll gain a much better idea of it by playing through the first few hours of the game as it was made. There is pretty much a built-in tutorial, look for the guys in green cloaks lurking everywhere in the starting area.

Much like the original Fallout games, this is a lot slower paced than modern games in it's genre. In Baldurs Gate, pause (space bar) is your best friend. USE IT. It lets you prepare in a battle, allowing you and your party to attack how and when you want to. I think it's still the case but holding Tab brings up doors and chests/boxes that can be intteracted with. Also hovering over HUD buttons and pressing/holding tab tells you what they are. TALK TO PEOPLE. You will recieve small errands that inroduce you to small concepts, there is a battle tutorial and a tutorial for fighting with a party within the first 10 minutes of play. Once you have a basic grasp of how the game works, you can start the game with your own character, this doc is worth a brief scan:

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1skil_G19ymIplOdfU8y6NWLTLkHUBwZsTihb3oFk5bU/edit?pli=1

Game Banshee have some brilliant walkthroughs for the game as well, which will help you find quests if you'd like that.

Character creation IS quite daunting if you don't know D&D, so my suggestion is look it up more when you get to that stage.

I know this is an essay and a half, but all these games (BG 1&2, Icewind Dale etc...) have given me so much pleasure in the past +15 years, that they have sculpted the way I look at storytelling in games RPGs. I hope you have the patience to immerse yourself in BG for a good few hours over a few days and get pulled in to it.

If there is anything else you're after leave a message on here. I'd be more than willing to help you become addicted.

Good luck.
miyel19 Jun 16, 2014 @ 1:01pm 
Thanks s-gorman for the recommendations and sorry for my criticism of this game, I know it's a cult classic, I am willing to retry and come back to say "no it's not overrated, it's really great"! Maybe during holidays when I have time and with a mental preparation to not loose my temper after 2 hours ;-))
It might help to read up on AD&D 2nd Ed. rules. This game is based on them and not the crap 3rd and beyond rules that Wizards passes off as AD&D.
Well, I suppose the OP has a point about the interface. Baldur's Gate and its sequel are widely considered to be two of the greatest cRPGs ever made, but older titles do tend to have less friendly UI. They're better than Fallout and Fallout2's UI, but can still be counterintuitive for younger audiences.
Last edited by Vita, Mortis, Careo; Jun 19, 2014 @ 1:14pm
NetworkGuyMN Jun 20, 2014 @ 8:45am 
There are three difficulties you're probably having. First, it is AD&D 2nd edition, which has convoluted rules like THAC0. Second, leveling is very slow, it isn't the quick gratification that games have today. Third, if you're used to games like Morrowind, the play is very different. The controls take some getting used to, but it will get there. I would recommend playing Planescape Torment first, that is story based, and a lot less combat. That will get you used to the UI, let you level up more quickly, and is a phenominal game.
DarkExcalibur42 Jun 20, 2014 @ 6:18pm 
O.o

Original Poster also has trouble tying his shoes, and opening boxes of kleenex. Baldur's Gate's UI requires a fairly minimal effort to learn. It was one of the first PC games I EVER played, and took me no more than an hour to learn how to use it.
rylerd_velglarn Jun 20, 2014 @ 8:47pm 
come on now dont say its not recomended if you havent even used the tutorial (which teaches you EVERYTHING you need to know about the game. this is by far a great game and blows alot of the games of today out of the sky. i dont even know why you would even play a game become confused about it and still look at the tutorial button and still say never.
Demiurge Jun 24, 2014 @ 11:54pm 
wait, op, you mean you actually need a tutorial for this? AhHAHAHAHA I'm sorry, I really shouldn't laugh but I just can't help it AHAHAHAHAHAHA

Originally posted by DarkExcalibur42:
O.o

Original Poster also has trouble tying his shoes, and opening boxes of kleenex. Baldur's Gate's UI requires a fairly minimal effort to learn. It was one of the first PC games I EVER played, and took me no more than an hour to learn how to use it.

^^THIS

seriously OP, are you that dense? how do you manage to even wash yourself in the morning?
ShinsFortress Jun 25, 2014 @ 8:51am 
Hey people, please keep it civil. No excuse for insults.

I too am amazed that someone needs more of a tutorial for this game than is already given, after reading the manual. But no need to be nasty.

I suspect they didn't read the full manual....
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