gallikgun May 10, 2013 @ 5:25am
Manablast overpowered?
I have a felling that getting Manablast is gamebreaking.
Fow those who don't know waht it is:
Manablast is a missile spell that does damage equal to a tenth of your mana pool, half of that if resisted. It cost 30 mana with no special skills. It has 1 turn prep time.

I think you can only get it by a certain quest where you find a book that teaches you the spell.
All your champions get the spell as well.

I had my sovereign and 5 champions. Everyone could cast manablast. In that game, my mana pool was always around 7000-10000. Meaning that i had 6 units able to cast 700-1000 damge missile spells.

I one hitted EVERYTHING. Even when they resisted the spell!
I felt awesome but became old really fast.
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Cross{x}Hair May 10, 2013 @ 9:04am 
I've never had more than 600 mana. WOW 7k!
gallikgun May 10, 2013 @ 9:39am 
My whole kingdom was made to provide mana, cause i was playing a mage sovereign.
I had like +80 mana per season. And then i dug in and waited till i had ammo(mana) because my military was dependent on it. (Auto-Resolver also uses Mana in case you didn't know, the AI uses your spells!) Then i learned manablast by pure chance.
Cross{x}Hair May 10, 2013 @ 10:06am 
Fair enough. My mage soverign game never got far as I won too quick. So never seen those kind of numbers. He was a summoner anyway, So didn't need too big a pool.
gallikgun May 10, 2013 @ 10:25am 
Well, i delayed victory on purpose. Just steamrolling everyone with manablast felt wrong so I just kept telling everyone to feck off. And they did. No one wanted to declare war on me. When i had 50 turns left, I jsut send out 2 armies with 3 heroes each supported my companies of heavy knights.

Against 3 other Kingdoms i won within 40 turns.
Strandly May 10, 2013 @ 6:29pm 
Things can get lopsided a variety of ways, not just by that a spell. For example, I generally don't mess with magic at all in my games and instead outfit my guys with the best hammers and run around 1-shotting armies with that crush ability. /shrug
gallikgun May 10, 2013 @ 9:32pm 
Well, then i guess beta is beta. This game needs some hard balancing. Still fun though.
Hero progression is just so slow. Most of the time i get to many champions that i don't where to put them. I get champions faster than i can recruit armies for them to lead, if i want to expand my cities at all. I think building and training should be seperate queues? Though i don't know how that would work with production costs.
StrangeLittleMan May 11, 2013 @ 1:57pm 
1 shotted master quest boss with manablast.. very OP especially to mages with reduced casting time.
Marvin May 12, 2013 @ 5:23pm 
Well think on this though, there's a buff spell called Mana Shield which deflects any damage the unit takes into your mana pool. Kinda difficult for any enemy to win against units which are invulnerable.
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Brewskin May 12, 2013 @ 5:40pm 
These two spells are very powerful, even OP, but it seems they are meant to be end game spells, and a dump for those who have hoarded mana. I think they likely need to be tied to a much harder quest than currently, but should otherwise remain unchanged.
gallikgun May 13, 2013 @ 11:21am 
i think manablast should be way more expensive to cast, like a last resort spell. and mana shield? i mean that thing is basically invincebility. they are ridiculously easy to use. And as i said i got manablast super early. like 25 turns into the game.
jozenone May 25, 2013 @ 8:45pm 
Last night, I blasted Waerloga the Dragonlord for 1671 damage on my first move. So much for the master quest, lol
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