sandips1274 Nov 5, 2013 @ 2:03pm
What is the most unstable type of load?
What generally is the most unstable (i.e. more prone to flipping or rolling over in curves) type of loads encountered in an unmodified version of the game, if any? For example, I've noticed that the short tank trailers that carry various chemicals and gases tend to roll over more easily than the large ones that carry petrol, diesel, oil, etc. I'm looking for a little more challenge, hence asking this here instead of doing the testing myself.
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ArcticBliss Nov 5, 2013 @ 2:05pm 
The short trailer with coal/sand/gravel/whatever isn't very stable either.
(Hmmm, at least I think it's in the vanilla game)
sandips1274 Nov 5, 2013 @ 2:28pm 
Thanks for the quick reply ArcticBliss. I'll definitely try hauling one of those now. I've not touched them up to this point, because the price/distance ratio for those jobs is rather on the lower side of the average or what is deemed beneficial to my company.
bc.slagelse (BCS) Nov 5, 2013 @ 2:30pm 
I agree, that trailer have flip over so many times. For me i don't take it anymore, The short trailer with coal/sand/gravel/whatever isn't very stable either.
sandips1274 Nov 5, 2013 @ 2:42pm 
Originally posted by bc.slagelse:
I agree, that trailer have flip over so many times. For me i don't take it anymore, The short trailer with coal/sand/gravel/whatever isn't very stable either.

I still take jobs with the short tank trailer, just for the fun factor and challenge, but I'd like to try something new as it's getting pretty repetitive. That other short trailer sounds to be an interesting thing. Let's see. I need to find an appropriate job first, that's not so easy in the city I'm currently in.
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[Resta]HUN-TER Nov 5, 2013 @ 2:46pm 
yhey are challenging the coal gravel trailers , you just need to be more carefull and drive slowlier specially in curves . :-)
ArcticBliss Nov 5, 2013 @ 3:25pm 
Hmmm, come to think of it "ETS2 Essentials Mod V3.0" by ND4SPD unlocks a trailer in the game that physically resembles the short gravel/whatever trailer, and IIRC it has not too dissimilar properties on the road.
Aqu Nov 5, 2013 @ 5:06pm 
Definately the sand/gravel/coal type trailer. It seems to have center of gravity high combined with very soft chassis. I have almost flipped them many times. I haven't had any problems with other type of loads. At the moment it would be fair to get difficult load bonus for delivering them ;)
Meeeps Nov 6, 2013 @ 2:37am 
I also think the "pit goods" are worst, and you also need a powerful engine, else driving outside the quarry can be tedious. ;-)
Mad Jonny Nov 6, 2013 @ 9:21am 
for me the most unstable is the short tanker because of its weight on a higher point+ they are usually pretty heavy. I flipped with one of them once XD
WildCat Nov 6, 2013 @ 9:36am 
http://ets2.lt/en/trailers-mod-pack-v-2-0/

Hauling the 76-tonne freight train in this mod is a sodding nightmare. Takes ages to reach 30mph and once you exceed that controling your truck is virtually impossible round bends.

Everything in an unmodded version is manageable, by comparison, even at 70mph.
James Scond (Banned) Nov 6, 2013 @ 9:54am 
Originally posted by sandips1274:
What generally is the most unstable (i.e. more prone to flipping or rolling over in curves) type of loads encountered in an unmodified version of the game, if any? For example, I've noticed that the short tank trailers that carry various chemicals and gases tend to roll over more easily than the large ones that carry petrol, diesel, oil, etc. I'm looking for a little more challenge, hence asking this here instead of doing the testing myself.

There is no difference! so does the game make the curve at 135 km / h loaded diesel, like gravel, water, cars, wood does not 'ha no difference! the game does not understand oo liquid that may occur is a body be higher than the other, otherwise nothing different!
ArcticBliss Nov 6, 2013 @ 9:56am 
Originally posted by WildCat:
http://ets2.lt/en/trailers-mod-pack-v-2-0/

Hauling the 76-tonne freight train in this mod is a sodding nightmare. Takes ages to reach 30mph and once you exceed that controling your truck is virtually impossible round bends.

Everything in an unmodded version is manageable, by comparison, even at 70mph.
Shame that mod seems to crash my game. To haul that locomotive to Aberdeen with a R480 was an experience.
WildCat Nov 6, 2013 @ 10:23am 
No doubt, an awfully slow experience - I gave up after 10 minutes, was more awkward than enjoyable, only worth it on a 5 mile max. quick job. Don't know why your game crashed - nice mod visually but quickly wears thin - collecting Abraham tanks from farms and freight trains from quarry pits becomes tiresome and feels too unrealistic.. the sail boat creates the most unusual scenarios - such as delivering one to Luxembourg - a country without a shore.
sandips1274 Nov 6, 2013 @ 12:20pm 
First of all, thanks for taking the time to reply everyone.

Oh boy, what a completely different experience it was to haul a sand/gravel/ore/whatever trailer! I almost tipped over SIX(!) times in the dark hours of the rainy night while en route to Brno from Strasbourg with 23 tons of ore on my back. Thanks to my quick reaction time and the truck's ability to steady itself automatically, I was able to bring the ore safely to the depot with a minor 2% damage on the trailer. I kept an eye on the trailer through the side mirror and all it was doing was bouncing, bumping and swaying like crazy behind me. I quickly realized that driving on cruise control is like asking for big trouble. :D Still I am a little bit surprised that even my 6x4 equipped FH16 couldn't cope with that trailer at speeds above ~70 km/h (on windy hill roads). I will definitely take more of these jobs anyway. Just wish they were better rewarded, at least better than other much simpler jobs, such as cars, food or excavator, that do no require your utmost full attention at all times, in every curve. ;)

@WildCat - Thanks for the link, but do you know if it works with ProMods and v1.7 of the game? That mod sounds like something I would love to try out at a later time. 30 mph (50/ km/h) indeed sounds more "awkward and dull" than enjoyable. Painfully slow driving in games is usually not my cup of tea. :D

@James Scond - Are we playing the same game? Which sane driver would drive a fully loaded semi-trailer at 135 km/h down a windy, badly-lit, two-lane highway in Europe lol? Of course there is an apparent difference in the trailer stability caused by different centers of gravity among other reasons. You should have figured that out by now (seeing that you are > lvl 30). It is simple physics really. The position of the center of gravity of an object affects its stability. The lower the center of gravity is, the more stable the object. The higher it is the more likely the object is to topple over if it is pushed. Racing cars have really low centers of gravity so that they can corner rapidly without turning over. Semi-trailers, by comparison, are not meant for particularly high speeds but to carry heavy loads and thus tend to have higher centers of gravity. I do think that ETS 2 takes this physical principle into account, and it does it rather well, in my opinion. Having said that, I am not in a position to comment on whether dumper trucks or short tankers are less stable than other kind of trailers in real life also, or if it is just a phenomenon observed in the game. Hopefully, some real-life truck drivers who play the game (I know there are quite a few of them here) can throw some light on this.

Cheers!
Mad Jonny Nov 6, 2013 @ 12:36pm 
I think the most stable loads are the flat beds
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