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Draco Nov 26, 2013 @ 6:31pm
Questions about the players on Youtube.....
So I am searching for some new chanels to watch on Youtube and to my surpirce the lack of um the other gender posting videos for this game. So my question is where are they?

I know there are plenty of people of both genders that love playing games but it seems like only one gender seems to play this game from the searches on Youtube.

The second question is how can we the players help brdge the gap some?

This game is really amazing and I know both genders play this game but I would like to see it from another genders point of views.
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Kaypix Nov 26, 2013 @ 7:21pm 
Haha, I'd say it's probably a mix of a demographic between males and females. As I'm a female, and a minority among my friends who game, I know that the odds are less likely that as many females will play Kinetic Void as males will. With that being said, the game is still in Early Access, so that may be another factor which is showing a more limited number of videos popping up on YouTube. I know my system is not powerful enough yet to Twitch, otherwise I'd do that the weeks we have patches out. Instead I'll just be video editing for now, then uploading a completed tutorial to YouTube, probably on Black Friday since I'll be afraid to leave my house...(driving is terrible that day)
Dakili Nov 26, 2013 @ 7:28pm 
Let's get this from this point of view.

Look at how many girls are actually video game you tubers. Not that much. Why? Simple. Most of the people who view these reviews are man, with a lot of them being sexist.

Ila lot of them get asked to get a webcam so we can see their face and sometimes when they accept, a lot of hateful comment on their appearance appear.

Some of them don't even show their face, but still get harassed tons of time to show it, or get comments saying that they're ugly which is why they don't show themselves.

I have some friends (girls and boys) who do cops lay, some bieng known internationally, and it's the same thing. If they don't have the perfect appearance they'll get insulted.

It's gaming industry is a really sexist one, and so are the players. Even if you say you aren't, almost every girl who play video games will say she was harassed or insulted in a way, for being a girl.
Because they are behind computers, people can stay anonymous and don't mind insulting or trying I pick in any girl possible, because if they get rejected they don't care. And they don't think about what they can do to those girls.

Which is why a lot of girls are reticent on actually telling people they are girls (since as we know, we always assume everyone is a guy execpt when told)

I could even bring some articles and stuff that friends of mine or known cosplayers/gamers have said, but I think you get the point.

Draco Nov 27, 2013 @ 5:47am 
Dakili,

Thank you for your post. While I already knew what you were saying deep down some where.
I just would like to find a away to bridge the gap. Far as the harassment of a gender, that is a social issue and will only take the community to step up to the plate.

Maybe that is something we can work on, give props to anyone that post about this game.

Show the gaming world that our community will defend against such actions and in return gain even more users based on that. Just a thought...



Kaypix Nov 27, 2013 @ 7:08am 
Draco and Dakili:
Thank you both so much for your input regarding this sensitive issue. You're both correct, and yes it's a social issue as well, one which unfortunately will probably be around for much longer than any video game. As long as their are snarky, trolly people online, there will be rude comments made, and yes, as a gamer, as soon as I made a comment about being a girl in most MMO's (World of Warcraft pre-Catastrophe...er...Cataclysm, Guild Wars etc.) I was immediately hounded about that fact. After learning my lesson, I don't mention gender when gaming.

I see the forums as a safe place, plus if anyone gets snarky, I can just block them (kidding of course!)
Heresiarch Grimm Nov 27, 2013 @ 3:07pm 
In my experience on YouTube, the easiest way to bridge the gap would be by doing collaberative works between genders. From what I've seen of those, and I'll admit there aren't many I've seen, the sexist comments seem to be less frequent and / or less severe than if a female does a video by herself.

By attempting to put the two genders together more frequently it's possible that the line between female and male gamers might get blurred if even a small amount.

I'm not suggesting that females must at all times work with a male in gaming videos on YouTube, but occasional collaberative stints could prove beneficial.
Kaypix Nov 27, 2013 @ 3:45pm 
Makes sense :) Since I work with 6 guys I have easy access to have a copilot :D
Draco Nov 27, 2013 @ 4:21pm 
Well that is an interesting thought Grimm... Not even sure if we can even make a dent in fixing the issue ourselves but that is not a valid reason to not try. Now how as a group try to promote an equality reguardless of gender?
Dakili Nov 27, 2013 @ 8:18pm 
With the game we have I think there's not much to do. Barely anything sexist in the game. He'll, we don't ever see any characters. So nothing really sexist.

On another game I would say to make sure there is no discrimination toward the female. ( no stereotypes and such).

Or use a really easy test that is used in some movie industries. The benchdel test. (Still possible to be sexi though)

1. Is there more than 2 girls in the movie.

2. Do those 2 woman talk about 3 other things than aan.


You would be surprised at how many movies actually fail this test.



But on a more serious matter. The only way to appeal, it would be to make publicity. Not for woman, or for man. Just normal publicity. Woman who like this type of game will be interested, same goes for man.

There's no magic trick to it.

By the way, which program you all use to upload your videos in YouTube, and which one you use for recording. (I know its not on topic but still wondering)
Draco Nov 27, 2013 @ 8:31pm 
Eh I am currently using two, Simple Screen Recorder and Kazam
With SSR will beed with my new video and still testing it out if I like it...
Kazam, well some times it works some time it does not.... Some of my videos are cut short I think.

For the upload I am using chrome and uploading to their website
If I find a better one for Linux I will let you know.
Kaypix Nov 27, 2013 @ 9:10pm 
I am using Techsmith's Camtasia ($299 for PC, $99 for Mac), it allows me to both record and then edit the piece, and has a feature to upload directly to YouTube (if I choose). I've used the feature in the past, but am sticking to the basics for this tutorial. I need more coffee...but my video is all done, sans vocals, but that's because I'm home for the night, and if I had my mic on, you'd all be hearing my dogs barking and cats meowing at me...they hate me recording, so the voiceover will come later this week or weekend etc.
Heresiarch Grimm Nov 28, 2013 @ 11:31am 
FRAPS for video, Audacity for audio and then upload to either my LP Channel or the Grimm Sepulchre channel.

Getting back on topic, sexism in gaming isn't going to be solved in one fell swoop. Much like other things, it may never be gone completely. What can be done, however, is mitigating how much sexism there is.
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