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tomb Jul 13, 2013 @ 12:23pm
When a game has cards and 66% off flash sale...
When a steam game has trading cards added and takes part in a flash sale and is 66% off, are we at the point where "Early Access" is merely a label meaning we are not allowed to complain about bugs and unfinished features?
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Jharii Jul 13, 2013 @ 12:25pm 
From the sounds of it, there is nothing stopping you from complaining.
[Mascot] Lumi Jul 13, 2013 @ 12:27pm 
I payed $38 for this game for myself, and a friend, quite a while back, and there weren't cards back then =\. Owell. I guess I can consider that to myself a donation.
LumberingTroll  [developer] Jul 13, 2013 @ 12:27pm 
Complain all you like, just be constructive and informative. I would rather have valuable feedback than complaints, but this is the internet so Ill take what I can get, as long as its usefull.


Zeal, we at BLS appreciate your support! dont forget that.
MistakenSanity Jul 13, 2013 @ 12:50pm 
I don't believe that is what it means. IF a game is in "early access" you know there are bugs. you know what you are buying before you buy it. If you don't want to deal with those types of things you know to just bypass early access games. People, like myself, like to support games during their development stages and love playing them to be part of the community and see the progress. Developers actually LOVE complaints as long as they are helpful. That is part of the reason they do early access. It allows more people to play and point out bugs.
LumberingTroll  [developer] Jul 13, 2013 @ 1:23pm 
Early Access means a game is still in development, things will change, more will be added. Its not that hard of a concept.
deadering Jul 13, 2013 @ 1:32pm 
If anything constructive "complaining" is encouraged; it helps the developers know what's wrong with the game. Just don't be an ♥♥♥-hat and understand the game is still in developement, and everything will be alright.
Seventy Two Jul 13, 2013 @ 1:33pm 
Originally posted by MistakenSanity:
Developers actually LOVE complaints as long as they are helpful. That is part of the reason they do early access. It allows more people to play and point out bugs.

I do agree, but on a side note OP is sort of right, usually on steam fans of a early-access game tend to dislike criticism even constructive ones. (Not all of them of course) ;)
tomb Jul 13, 2013 @ 1:40pm 
Originally posted by Kreuzfeuer:
Originally posted by MistakenSanity:
Developers actually LOVE complaints as long as they are helpful. That is part of the reason they do early access. It allows more people to play and point out bugs.

I do agree, but on a side note OP is sort of right, usually on steam fans of a early-access game tend to dislike criticism even constructive ones. (Not all of them of course) ;)

That wasn't really my point though, although your point was shown by the first response to my post.

My point is that early access games are swanning around like first-class citizens of the steam city, showing off their collectible card sets, their inclusion in flash sales and so on, when really they should be be slinking in the backalleys, covered in rags, begging for coins from passing steamcitizens.

No wait, that's not really my point.

My point is that early access games are swanning around like first class citizens of the steam city with all its perks (cards, sales etc.) but with a big "early access" card they can play to get out of trouble if anyone criticises them for being buggy or unfinished.

Basically I'm saying early access is a free pass to release unfinished or buggy games; an immunity from criticism.
EvilSmoo Jul 13, 2013 @ 1:45pm 
Having it already on sale during early access confused me a little.

That Supreme-Commander kinda-sequel is apparently commanding $90, which is a little completely off-putting, but this the opposite. If at an earlier dev stage? Which is fine, they take as long as they take.

But uhhh, sure, why not, if it's on sale? I'm sure as hell not paying $90 for an alpha, but this looks like it has potential. :P
Ch0plol Jul 13, 2013 @ 2:01pm 
It's the same thing as "beta" labels. They mean nothing in this day and age. If the game is being sold for money, then it's the release build, plain and simple.
LumberingTroll  [developer] Jul 13, 2013 @ 2:01pm 
No, its not at all. The game is in active development, and is not feature complete.

This thread really doesn't have anything specific to do with KV so I am going to lock it. If you want a discussion about this kind of things, go to the general steam forums please.
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