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Belgarion Jul 11, 2013 @ 7:09pm
Shipyard?
Honestly, I don't have time for that. I hope the game offers pre-made ships. I don't want to waste time customizing stuff...
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Dakili Jul 11, 2013 @ 7:11pm 
That's one of the part of the game. There's already pre-made ship, but if you want your ship to be better and all that later on, you'll have to learn to use it.
Salha Ikraam Reem Jul 11, 2013 @ 7:36pm 
customization at the shipyard is like, half the game.
Dakili Jul 11, 2013 @ 8:09pm 
At the moment, yes. But later it won't be.
tallon.nisar Jul 11, 2013 @ 9:18pm 
True, but if you're of the opinon that customizing ships is a waste of time, I'm thinking this isn't the best game for you, especailly right this instant.
Pyrsin7 Jul 12, 2013 @ 10:05am 
Ship Customization is one of the biggest things that sets this game apart. If you don't like that, then this probably isn't for you.
Frankith Jul 12, 2013 @ 2:42pm 
My biggest problem thus far with the shipyard is getting the pieces to fit the way I want them to. Most of the time things just don't position themselves the way you would think that they would and it becomes difficult trying to build the ship you want to build.
c4869 Jul 12, 2013 @ 3:33pm 
i've been working on a ship and when the new update came.This afternoon i was removing some pieces and one piece i try moving or deleting and it removes the whole ship
LumberingTroll  [developer] Jul 12, 2013 @ 3:36pm 
This is an issue we are working on still, because of the way the hirearchy works, when you add a part to another part, it becomes that parts child, when you remove the parent, it tries to find another part to link to, but if it cannot it will remove both. It will improve as we continue to work on it.

OP: This may not be a good game for you, building, and upgrading your ship is the root of our progression. You will be able to use stock ships and maybe thats enough for you, but I am unsure how enjoyable it will be for you at this point. But obviously we do not find the same things enjoyable so who knows.
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Naiba Jul 12, 2013 @ 4:05pm 
Quite honestly the entire ship editor is an exercise in frustration in its current state, at least for someone with hundreds of hours of experience with the KSP ship editor as a frame of reference. (well, myself at least)

Really hoping it gets a full overhaul at some point. Designing my own ship was what I was looking forward to most in this game.

*Really, the Shores of Hazeron ship editor is less frustrating in KV's current state, crippling lag and all.
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LumberingTroll  [developer] Jul 12, 2013 @ 5:39pm 
Crippling lag? What kind of computer are you using? If you do have lag, use less parts your computer cant handle it.

There is a guide on how to make ships, its really not hard at all. there is a total of 5 keys used and the mouse.
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HER0 01 Jul 12, 2013 @ 9:57pm 
I believe he means that Shores of Hazeron has crippling lag.
Scooter Jul 13, 2013 @ 12:46am 
It isn't difficult to understand how to use the shipyard. It's frustrating coming from games with more refined ship builders to the one in KV. Accidentally clicking the wrong option on a part from which most of your ship stems can be quite, er, disappointing, if you haven't made frequent saves. Building complicated symmetrical ships can be EXTREMELY tedious... coming from another KSP player, I can sympathize with Naiba
Belgarion Jul 15, 2013 @ 7:07pm 
Originally posted by LumberingTroll:
This is an issue we are working on still, because of the way the hirearchy works, when you add a part to another part, it becomes that parts child, when you remove the parent, it tries to find another part to link to, but if it cannot it will remove both. It will improve as we continue to work on it.

OP: This may not be a good game for you, building, and upgrading your ship is the root of our progression. You will be able to use stock ships and maybe thats enough for you, but I am unsure how enjoyable it will be for you at this point. But obviously we do not find the same things enjoyable so who knows.
If ships are prebuilt, and upgrades are offered that can be installed easily on your ship, with no needed esthetics, I wouldn't mind playing. If quests and an economy and random events are added, I'll probably find it enjoyable. I might get it, when it comes out.
Dakili Jul 15, 2013 @ 7:29pm 
Originally posted by Belgarion:
Originally posted by LumberingTroll:
This is an issue we are working on still, because of the way the hirearchy works, when you add a part to another part, it becomes that parts child, when you remove the parent, it tries to find another part to link to, but if it cannot it will remove both. It will improve as we continue to work on it.

OP: This may not be a good game for you, building, and upgrading your ship is the root of our progression. You will be able to use stock ships and maybe thats enough for you, but I am unsure how enjoyable it will be for you at this point. But obviously we do not find the same things enjoyable so who knows.
If ships are prebuilt, and upgrades are offered that can be installed easily on your ship, with no needed esthetics, I wouldn't mind playing. If quests and an economy and random events are added, I'll probably find it enjoyable. I might get it, when it comes out.

There's no "upgrades" If they are "upgrades", you'll have to put them yourself in your ship, where you want. Not just add better weapon or add better armor.
Belgarion Jul 16, 2013 @ 7:56am 
T_T
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