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himmatsj Jan 15 @ 10:48am
WTF is an early access game doing as daily deal?
In the event this game is never completed, can Steam guarantee a refund?
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[GWJ]UMOarsman Jan 15 @ 10:55am 
No, but that's the point of the "Early Access" program - you're funding the developer's efforts to bring this to market. It's the same risk as if you were funding a Kickstarter.
[Paragon] Puck Norris Jan 15 @ 11:05am 
I've learnt to be much more wary of buying Early Access.
realkman666 Jan 15 @ 11:11am 
Electronic Arts, Early Access, EA, EA, Avoid, Avoid.
MrMechanicool Jan 15 @ 11:23am 
No refunds for Early Access. You are "investing" in the game by buying in at early access. The reward is, if completed, you get the game cheaper than the final version and you get to help the development (directly by communicating with the devs or indirectly by helping fund the game.) The risk (which is present in almost any investment) is that if the game isn't completed, you lose your money. For only $7.99 i would think it's a pretty good risk vs. reward esp since it looks like this dev is involved with the community. Hope this helps clear things up :)
Sterling Archer ~t(''t)~ Jan 15 @ 11:30am 
Originally posted by specjalista:
No clue. I'm tired with all those unfinished weird ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ games filling Steam's catalogue. They might have no future and they are taking place of normal good titles.
F*ck Early Access and F*ck kickstarter. I want a solid final product and not some risky thing that might never be finished and promises most likely aren't kept. Also waiting for this thing to be polished or brough to playable state is unbearable.
All that Greenlight and Early Access brings mostly weird stuff.


So don't buy/fund them. Simple stuff.

These crowdfunding programs and early access programs are helping to bring MORE games to market, and some of them are really great. These are games that would not have been made if not for crowdfunding and early access.

Its not like these games being made is somehow taking away from other traditionally funded games from being made, so throwing a fit about them like you did is just stupid.
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Raiden_chino Jan 15 @ 11:36am 
Almost all Early Access games go on sale, there is nothing new .-.

Just like finished games, there are good Early Access games and bad ones. Just inform yourself well of what are you buying and most of the time you will be satisfied.
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Τhe Rolling Cheese Wheel Jan 15 @ 11:42am 
Originally posted by MrMechanicool:
No refunds for Early Access. You are "investing" in the game by buying in at early access. The reward is, if completed, you get the game cheaper than the final version and you get to help the development (directly by communicating with the devs or indirectly by helping fund the game.) The risk (which is present in almost any investment) is that if the game isn't completed, you lose your money. For only $7.99 i would think it's a pretty good risk vs. reward esp since it looks like this dev is involved with the community. Hope this helps clear things up :)

Actually most early access games stands to get cheaper after release not more expensive. You are paying a premium on top of being a free game tester in order to play a game first. That is your reward for being an early adopter :>, enjoy. I'll be sure to pick up this game in a year or two when it lands in a Humble Indie Bundle or something for like a dollar in it's complete state.
DMZer0 Jan 15 @ 11:45am 
I'm actually betting on buying some early access that i may find somewhat interesting, this is one of them, also have Rust and Assetto Corsa. Took advantage of steam sales for all of them, minimizing the risk in the purchase.
Robotica Jan 15 @ 11:50am 
I kind of agree, though I think that Early Access is actually a rather good feature to offer. Having the ability to get into games before they are completed gives developers a lot of good opportunities to help improve their games for release. However, I have 2 major concerns with early access.

First is that you must pay the full price of the game before it is completed. Essentially taking a risk, which is not really appropriate for Steam. Kickstarter is Kickstart, and Steam is Steam. Steam users have a different expectation, its just how it is. I don't think they should remove the option to pay full price, I just think they should add an additional option to pay based on how much content is currently available. So if the game only has 30% of its final release content, then you should have the option to pay 30% of the price. Then, as they release updates you can purchase them at an additional cost.

This way, it solves my other big problem, and that is there is no incentive for developers to put their best food forward if everyone already bought the game at full price. I mean, if a game comes out on early access and bombs, its not likely to do well at all when it comes to the final release. Sure it might get a few more sales, but it won't do much and the devs know this. So, we really need a way to make developers realize that consumers get what you pay for, and not be deceived into getting less.
Raiden_chino Jan 15 @ 11:57am 
Originally posted by Τhe Rolling Ham Cheese:
Actually most early access games stands to get cheaper after release not more expensive. You are paying a premium on top of being a free game tester in order to play a game first. That is your reward for being an early adopter :>, enjoy. I'll be sure to pick up this game in a year or two when it lands in a Humble Indie Bundle or something for like a dollar in it's complete state.

That's not the case. Arma 3 was 40 when it was in Early Access and now is 60 after release. Kerbal already increised it's price after a big update and will increase again after release.
You pay for funding, playing first and for a small discount compared to the final version.

People just need to choose more carefully and stop giving their money to anything that seems remotely decent. Most don't even finish reading the store page before buying the game, less watching a video or reading some impressions, but then they go to the forums to say how bad Early Access and Steam is.
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Mighty Poo Jan 15 @ 11:57am 
Valve shouldn't encourage people to get early access games, and as such shouldn't feature them prominently in sales.

Honestly I'm getting sick of seeing so many unfinished games.
himmatsj Jan 15 @ 11:58am 
Originally posted by Raiden_chino:
Originally posted by Τhe Rolling Ham Cheese:
Actually most early access games stands to get cheaper after release not more expensive. You are paying a premium on top of being a free game tester in order to play a game first. That is your reward for being an early adopter :>, enjoy. I'll be sure to pick up this game in a year or two when it lands in a Humble Indie Bundle or something for like a dollar in it's complete state.

That's not the case. Arma 3 was 40 when it was in Early Access and now is 60 after release. Kerbal already incriesed it's price after a big update.
You pay for funding, playing first and for a small discount compared to the final version.

People just need to choose more carefully and stop giving their money to anything that seems remotely decent. Most don't even finish reading the store page before buying the game, less watching a video or reading some impressions, but then they go to the forums to say how bad Early Access and Steam is.

It can go either way. Lots of them don'tchange price and get heavily discounted on release.
himmatsj Jan 15 @ 11:58am 
Originally posted by Mighty Poo:
Valve shouldn't encourage people to get early access games, and as such shouldn't feature them prominently in sales.

Honestly I'm getting sick of seeing so many unfinished games.

ANd yet you have it?
Well, some early access games are bad, but some are pretty good e.g. Starbound, DayZ e.t.c
Dago Jan 15 @ 12:01pm 
This trend of Early Access Games is getting out of hand..
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