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khaosnewrise25 Sep 7, 2013 @ 1:28am
Primordia, An Extraordinary Adventure
I bought Primordia a few days ago during the Steam Greenlight Sale and I was immediately hooked. I loved the setting a lot, being a fan of post-apocalyptic media like in the Mad Max films or in the Fallout games. And I really enjoyed the conversations and dialogues in Primordia especially the ones with Ever-Faithful Leobuilt. The puzzles were okay, took me a while to figure some out but they weren't exactly frustrating and Crispin while annoying makes a good sidekick to Horatio. For some reason, the game reminds me of Beneath A Steel Sky (my favourite point-click adventure), especially with the subtitles on and the words floating above the characters.

As an aspiring writer myself, I understand if Wadjet Eye Games and Wormwood Studios has no intention to return to the Primordia universe so soon. Trying to cook up another story, especially one in the same world and setting can really put a dampener on creativity (trust me, I know). But, like others who have mentioned this before, it would be interesting to revisit the Primordia world another time in the future and see more of it from another perspective or something.

Other than that, I'll be keeping an eye out for future games from you guys and thanks, for giving an experience well worth the money I spend.
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Rustczar the Vagrant Sep 7, 2013 @ 2:01am 
I fully agree with this post. Hoping for another game like this in the future.
xlynx Sep 7, 2013 @ 6:27am 
Check out Fallen[www.primordiagame.com] if you haven't already. It's a novella in the Primordia universe.

(fyi Wadjet Eye is Primordia's publisher, the game is by Wormwood Studios).
khaosnewrise25 Sep 7, 2013 @ 6:36am 
Originally posted by xlynx:
Check out Fallen[www.primordiagame.com] if you haven't already. It's a novella in the Primordia universe.

(fyi Wadjet Eye is Primordia's publisher, the game is by Wormwood Studios).

Yeah, I forgot about that. I just edited my post to give proper credit to Wormwood Studios as well. I also heard of the novella Fallen, will probably check it out in a while.
Mark Yohalem Sep 7, 2013 @ 8:08am 
Thanks so much! I'm glad you enjoyed the game, and I appreciate that you flagged some of the weaker parts as well as telling us what you liked. We're working on some new things which will have the same pillars as Primordia (rich and mysterious backstory; somewhat exaggerated character types; philosophical scenes; bleak setting) but in new IPs. Hopefully we'll have something to share soon.
khaosnewrise25 Sep 7, 2013 @ 8:54am 
Originally posted by Mark Yohalem:
Thanks so much! I'm glad you enjoyed the game, and I appreciate that you flagged some of the weaker parts as well as telling us what you liked. We're working on some new things which will have the same pillars as Primordia (rich and mysterious backstory; somewhat exaggerated character types; philosophical scenes; bleak setting) but in new IPs. Hopefully we'll have something to share soon.

I'm definitely looking forward to it. Its good to know that even though certain parties of the video game industry doubts it, the point-click adventure genre is still alive. And that point-click adventures can still go out of their way to be unique and Primordia IS unique.
VioletShadow Sep 9, 2013 @ 7:25pm 
I've just finished my first playthrough and there are so many things I want to say about this game but right now it's not very coherent. I was deeply touched by the story, the situations the characters found themselves in, the philosophical argument, themes. The ending I got brought a few tears to my eyes. I'd also like to see more of the universe. Very unique and beautiful game.
VioletShadow Sep 9, 2013 @ 7:41pm 
I don't know Calcifer, only that the steam version has achievements.
Calcifer Sep 9, 2013 @ 7:42pm 
Thanks
Calcifer Sep 9, 2013 @ 7:43pm 
I ask because GoG are selling it for the same price, but with the soundtrack and a few other goodies as well.
xlynx Sep 9, 2013 @ 7:47pm 
There's some extra content on gog (art, wallpapers, soundtrack). It's also a part of this deal[www.gog.com] which lasts all week. The gog version also works on Mac out of the box, whereas the Steam version won't (and perhaps can't be run in WINE due to Steam DRM).

Steam however gives you automatic updates (not that I expect any updates for Primordia), and it lets you compare your achievements with friends.
Mark Yohalem Sep 9, 2013 @ 9:34pm 
@ Calcifer & xlynx: As counter-intuitive as this may seem, I think automatic updates are actually problematic with Primordia (or any game made in AGS) because patches can conceivably break your saves. Generally, I think the GOG version is a slightly better deal in terms of what you get (the wallpapers are unremarkable, the art is all publicly available, but the soundtrack is great!), but Steam has a lot of nice social components to it (like being able to post screenshots and whatnot).

@ Ume: Thanks so much! I'm glad you enjoyed it! (And I found your reference to Morte in the other thread very gratifying. Morte was definitely the main inspiration.)
VioletShadow Sep 11, 2013 @ 8:24am 
Originally posted by Mark Yohalem:
@ Calcifer & xlynx: As counter-intuitive as this may seem, I think automatic updates are actually problematic with Primordia (or any game made in AGS) because patches can conceivably break your saves. Generally, I think the GOG version is a slightly better deal in terms of what you get (the wallpapers are unremarkable, the art is all publicly available, but the soundtrack is great!), but Steam has a lot of nice social components to it (like being able to post screenshots and whatnot).

@ Ume: Thanks so much! I'm glad you enjoyed it! (And I found your reference to Morte in the other thread very gratifying. Morte was definitely the main inspiration.)

^.^ I perceived a lot of things in the game to be inspired by Planescape: Torment, from the most obvious such as parallels between "Horatio" and TNO to subtler ones that I'm not even sure were intentional and might just be overthinking on my part.
Mark Yohalem Sep 11, 2013 @ 8:54am 
Vhailor and Clarity probably bear comparison, though I think they're not as similar as Horatio/TNO and Crispin/Morte. I'm curious what other ones you saw. I'm sure it's full of unintentional ones; PS:T was a pretty formative game for me, and so even when I wasn't consciously paying homage, I'm sure I was doing so unconsciously.
VioletShadow Sep 11, 2013 @ 9:32am 
Originally posted by Mark Yohalem:
Vhailor and Clarity probably bear comparison, though I think they're not as similar as Horatio/TNO and Crispin/Morte. I'm curious what other ones you saw. I'm sure it's full of unintentional ones; PS:T was a pretty formative game for me, and so even when I wasn't consciously paying homage, I'm sure I was doing so unconsciously.

I also saw some similarities between MetroMind and the Lady of Pain. In Planescape the Lady of Pain is the protector of the city of Sigil and anyone that threatens Sigil or does something to disrupt the order of things will find him/herself on the Lady's bad side. With Metromind, she believes her actions are justified because she is doing what she thinks is best, or at least whatever is in her power to do, for Metropol. Whenever Horatio asks where he can find Metromind, everybody is like 'you don't find her, she finds you'.

Right from the beginning, Primordia felt very unique but at the same time I got this strong sense of déjà vu. I think the atmosphere shares some similarities with that of PS:T. Both the visuals and audio help create a sort of dark ambient. Both games have this gloomy, sombre feeling that is also...umm melancholic? Like the Sad Robot that keeps waiting for his bus just as my dear Deionarra waits for TNO.

As for themes, I think both deal with identity, discovering the truth, and the nature of man/robot. What can change the nature of a man/robot? In Primordia, Horatio is always this calm individual that reasons stuff and solves the problems he comes across with his head and building/creating stuff out of junk but towards the end he is really pushed to his limits. Poor thing is even forced to violence.

That was really long eh, sorry. PS:T also had a strong influence for me and is one of my favorite games so I see similarities everywhere!
MichiGen Sep 19, 2013 @ 12:04pm 
My recommendation: Very good adventure game with top-notch voice acting, great atmospheric setting, beautiful music and interesting story. The only downside is that there is not much to explore, the whole world is rather small (there should be more streets to explore in the city), and 1 or 2 puzzles were pretty hard. Luckily there is your sidekick - Crispin, who will give you a small hint sometimes, and he's a very funny character too, reminds me of Wheatley from Portal 2 a lot.

Thank you Wormwood Studios, Primordia is a great piece of art, I've really enjoyed it. Looking forward to your next game :)
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