Primordia

Primordia

View Stats:
Primordia > General Discussions > Topic Details
Like A Boas Apr 9, 2013 @ 4:58pm
Beating a Dead Horse
Alright, so I know this has been hashed out a few times in previous discussions, but I have tried every Info Kiosk entry from Arbiter to the Zork easter egg, and I still have not gotten the "Know it All" achievment. Below is a list of terms I have tried, if anyone can point out some painfully obvious ommisions, please feel free to do so. Otherwise i'll just keep trying.

Both With and Without Lens:
Arbiter, Central Station, Clarity, Courthouse, Factor, Goliath, Horus, HIstory, Humanism, Humans, Landmarks, Law, Memorious, Metromind, Metropol, Other Cities, Primordium, Refuge Rule, Robot Council, Scraper, Sturnweiler, War, Steeple.

Without Lens:
CDEP, Cycles, Efficiency Initiative, Power, Primer, Progress, Underworks

Lens Only:
Art, Cathedral, Created, Crier, Tower, Escape, Lies, Oblique, Redlien, Starport

Commands:
Exit, Help, Back, Home, More, Quit

Thanks,
Let me know what I may be missing, and hopefully the list can be completed.
< >
Showing 1-15 of 70 comments
Like A Boas Apr 9, 2013 @ 4:59pm 
"Shell" has also been used
Mark Y. Apr 9, 2013 @ 7:50pm 
At a minimum, you appear to be missing "Main Street" under both monocle and no monocle. I'm assuming that where topics have multiple pages (some have 3), you've read all of them (which is required).

Let me know if that resolves things.
Like A Boas Apr 10, 2013 @ 6:10am 
Thanks Mark, Just went through and entered them all again, including main street, still no luck though. I had missed the third page of landmarks, but it wasn't the troublemaker apparently. I'll give it another go in a little bit, maybe the cheevo gods will be pleased with me.
Mark Y. Apr 10, 2013 @ 7:45am 
I'll plunge back into the code. If no one had gotten the achievement, it would be easier to figure out what was going on.
Like A Boas Apr 10, 2013 @ 10:49am 
No worries, I'm in no hurry. Even without the achievment it is still one of the most beautiful games I have played in ages.
1stReaper Apr 10, 2013 @ 12:12pm 
still having trouble getting it
Mark Y. Apr 10, 2013 @ 10:27pm 
Thanks for the praise!

I found the section of the code that contains the kiosk entries, and then I wrote a quick QuickBasic program for stripping that down to just a list of the topic names. Here's what I pulled. I'm too tired to check this against your list (which is what I tried to do while just looking at the code last time), but maybe you'll notice something:

WITHOUT MONOCLE

0=WELCOME
1=HISTORY
2=ROBOT COUNCIL
3=CORRUPT DATA ELIMINATION PLAN
4=PRIMER
5=FACTOR
6=ARBITER
7=STEEPLE
8=HUMANISM
9=HUMANS
10=PROGRESS
11=PRIMORDIUM
12=LANDMARKS
13=UNDERWORKS
14=SHELL
15=WAR OF THE FOUR CITIES
16=OTHER CITIES
17=GOLIATH
18=HORUS
19=CHARITY & CLARITY ARBITERBUILT
20=S.C.R.A.P.E.R.
21=STURNWEILER
22=POWER
23=CYCLES
24=METROPOLITAN LAW
25=METROMIND (l)
26=METROMIND (2)
27=REFUGE RULE (l)
28=REFUGE RULE (2)
29=EFFICIENCY INITIATIVE (l)
30=EFFICIENCY INITIATIVE (2)
31=HELP
32=MEMORIOUS
33=COURTHOUSE
34=MAIN STREET
35=CENTRAL STATION

WITH MONOCLE

0=WELCOME
1=HISTORY (l)
3=HISTORY (2)
2=ROBOT COUNCIL (l)
4=ROBOT COUNCIL (2)
5=FACTOR MANBUILT
6=ARBITER MANBUILT
7=STEEPLE MANBUILT
8=HUMANISM
9=HUMANS
10=WAR OF THE FOUR CITIES (2)
11=PRIMORDIUM
12=LANDMARKS (l)
13=LANDMARKS (2)
14=LANDMARKS (3)
15=WAR OF THE FOUR CITIES (l)
16=OTHER CITIES
17=GOLIATH MANBUILT
18=HORUS
19=CHARITY & CLARITY ARBITERBUILT
20=S.C.R.A.P.E.R.
21=STURNWEILER MANBUILT
22=MEMORIOUS MANBUILT
23=OBLIQUE
24=METROPOLITAN LAW
25=METROMIND MANBUILT
26=ART
27=REFUGE RULE (l)
28=REFUGE RULE (2)
29=CREATING lies
30=LIES
31=ESCAPE
32=REDLINE
33=HELP
34=COUNCIL TOWER
35=CRIER COUNCILBUILT
36=COURTHOUSE
37=MAIN STREET
38=METROPOLITAN CATHEDRAL (l)
39=METROPOLITAN CATHEDRAL (2)
40=CENTRAL STATION
41=STARPORT (l)
42=STARPORT (2)

One thing I'm wondering is whether you might need to actually put in "welcome" as opposed to just having it register when you initially load up the kiosk. (Note, these are the topic headings that are displayed, not the keywords that trigger them. So "CDEP" or "Redlien" should suffice so long as each of these screens has been loaded up.)

Let me know if this helps.
1stReaper Apr 10, 2013 @ 10:56pm 
<face to palm>....... still didn't get the achievement =/........
and i typed in EVERYTHING you posted :(.....
tryed redline + redlien, i did welcome i on both, exit, help, back, quit and home aswell =/
still didn't come up :(
Last edited by 1stReaper; Apr 10, 2013 @ 10:57pm
Mark Y. Apr 11, 2013 @ 7:42am 
Sigh. There must be some underlying glitch. But then how have some people gotten it?

Did you do "more" on each of the multi-page topics?
Like A Boas Apr 11, 2013 @ 8:55am 
I have yet to go through again, but I am wondering if it has to do with continuity. Maybe if you make any entries in one session, save, and come back to it it screw of the achievment. This is speculation of course, but I am going to rip through the first part of the game and try entering them all in one sitting, maybe that will do the trick.
Like A Boas Apr 11, 2013 @ 8:56am 
*"It screws up the achievement". Sorry, my fingers are feeling special today
1stReaper Apr 11, 2013 @ 9:59am 
yep, i did everything, and i mean everything :( even tryed the one crispin says when you type in oblique
Last edited by 1stReaper; Apr 11, 2013 @ 10:00am
Mark Y. Apr 11, 2013 @ 8:19pm 
Well guys, I hate to say it, but I'm stumped. I've gone through the code and scrutinized it as best I can, and while it's a bit strangely laid out (not how I would've necessarily done it, but I don't know how to code in AGS, so it may be peculiar to the engine), it appears like it should work. I'll email the coder, but since he's currently serving in the Greek military and doesn't have access to the files, I'm not really sure how to proceed.

Again, what mystifies me is that some people *did* report getting the achievement. Not sure how it's possible for it sometimes to work and sometimes not to work.
1stReaper Apr 11, 2013 @ 8:23pm 
unless its prob just one of them that happens on skyrim,
you start a game with a certain bug active in that playthough that will trigger once you get to the right point ?... i dont know... but thanks for the help all the same
as for the email as primordia is a wadjeteye game + wormwood, ya'd prob be better emailing one of them about this (i would do it myself but im having issues trying to get a stable internet connection at the moment)
Like A Boas Apr 11, 2013 @ 8:53pm 
I'm not too worried about it, thanks dude
< >
Showing 1-15 of 70 comments
Per page: 15 30 50

Primordia > General Discussions > Topic Details